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Nothing & Everything => Open Discussion => Topic started by: Steve on September 09, 2009, 11:15:16 PM
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been hear about 6 months, and its definitly a weird place. but i like it. and im bored, so heres a few observations
1) Fat is no longer fat. What i used to consider fat is now "thick". Thick is now healthy, and what i used to consider healthy is now anorexic. If she weighs less then 125 pounds in michigan she's got somethin wrong with her. Like a wounded gazelle in the pack avoided by the lion.
2) I no longer seek a specific woman. I used to go for employed, no kids, doesnt smoke, no mental problems, and no history of interracial dating. If you can get ONE of those things here then you marry her. If you get them all you run cause someone is lying.
3) My standards have dropped considerably. See #1 & #2. My throwbacks are starting to look really good against some of my current front runners.
4) Every job is a great job. Nobody here is knocking anyone for flipping burgers or pumping gas. Michiganders get a job and cling to it like driftwood in a boat wreck.
5) Camo and road construction should be on the state flag.
6) I think this is the fattest state ever.
7) Walmart is "overpriced" because Dollar General has the same thing on sale.
8) OMG the way people drive. Let's all drive 100MPH, never check our mirrors, and if it isnt infront of us it doesnt exist. And a 77 deville is just as safe to break the sound barrier in as a 09 charger.
9) Any form of light on the road, flashing or otherwise, is a suggestion. Traffic lights, blinkers, messages, hazard lights, police, fire, ems, etc should all be viewed as a suggestion rather then a requirement. Green means go, yellow means slow down, and red means check twice but dont stop.
i know i got more....lol
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Go fuck yourself.
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Somehow I missed this part the first time
> no history of interracial dating
Go fuck yourself twice.
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:lol:
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Go fuck yourself.
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I LOL'd @ #'s 5, 6 & 7
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Go fuck yourself.
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Go fuck yourself.
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Anyone want to use their "STFU RoD" card?
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Lost soda over that one.
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This was a delightful find.
> no history of interracial dating
Go fuck yourself twice.
x30.
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I don't touch girls who have been with black guys. If you guys want too then have at it but I see shit at a street level u can't even imagine and its a rule I don't bend or break for nobody.
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how do you work that into conversation...
..."so before we get busy, can you just fill out this quick questionnaire? I need to know your past sexual history including any black men you've slept with"
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I don't touch girls who have been with black guys. If you guys want too then have at it but I see shit at a street level u can't even imagine and its a rule I don't bend or break for nobody.
http://www.amishrakefight.org/gfy/
PS You are a piece of shit
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I don't touch girls who have been with black guys. If you guys want too then have at it but I see shit at a street level u can't even imagine and its a rule I don't bend or break for nobody.
Now is this becuase you are affraid that thier va-jay-jay's have been stretched out and they wouldn't fell you bumping uglies with them?
(sorry, you left yourself open for that one :p)
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I don't touch girls who have been with black guys. If you guys want too then have at it but I see shit at a street level u can't even imagine and its a rule I don't bend or break for nobody.
Dude - I love you man, but that was one of the dumbest things you've ever said.
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I don't touch girls who have been with black guys. If you guys want too then have at it but I see shit at a street level u can't even imagine and its a rule I don't bend or break for nobody.
Dude - I love you man, but that was one of the dumbest things you've ever said.
It's really not dude. I'm not down with STD's and black babies. To see how most of them live (not EVERYWHERE but this def applies to grand rapids) and to still be messing around with them is nasty as shit and im not taking any girl who sinks to that level.
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Yeah cause white guys can't have STDs...
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fuckin poor people
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literally
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Yeah cause white guys can't have STDs...
I'm not sayin they cant. I'm saying that it takes a lower class woman to fuck with these black guys. If you want to disagree and be ignorant thats fine, it's your life.
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Dude it isn't like you are rolling in high society. I'd be willing to beat there are black guys and gals in Michigan that would look down their noses at you and your low class.
If you want to draw the line at socio-economics then I'm cool with that. But drawing the line at race, not so much.
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If you want to draw the line at socio-economics then I'm cool with that.
For the most part, that's almost as wrongheaded as racism.
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In a way I would agree with you. However, our society is already divided up along those lines. For example, do you go down to the slums to hang out? What about the high society part?
I choose to no associate with people who engage in certain behavior that is often times attributed with ones economic status (position, level, class, not sure what would be a good word for it).
So I guess I am ok with someone saying they draw the line at avoiding those that engage in or associate with people who do drugs, have unprotected sex, don't get tested, etc.
Is it right? Probably not. Is it the world we live in? Unfortunately so.
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Duh! Everyone knows that being born with darker skin means you're a dirty fucking piece of scum*
*For avoidance of doubt that was sarcasm.
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The word (in social science) is socioeconomic status (SES), and for once, I agree with Mike. Like it or not, there are plenty of examples of behaviors or attributes that are more commonly correlated with people of a higher or lower SES. If you want to avoid people that engage in certain types of behavior that are more common at a certain SES group - and you choose to do it by avoiding the group...then so be it...but to draw that line solely at race is silliness.
edit: Not judging that it's right or wrong to avoid that group - just saying the idea doesn't make me go crazy
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I don't actively discriminate against people from lower socio-economic classes, though. I don't often go to places in bad neighborhoods, but if there is something worth going to in one, I've never hesitated. I've found a lot of good restaurants that way.
I probably do do it subconsciously, but I've never consciously said "that place in the ghetto, let's not go there" or "that guy's black, i'm afraid of him". Living near Detroit, that would pretty much end any sort of social life I'd attempt to have.
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I'm not saying all blacks are ghetto thugs and stuff, but its not like am going to get names of each one and research them, so for the purposes of dating it is easier to explude them all.
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I think people from New Jersey should be excluded too, because you're from there and rick's from there and that's just too risky for me.
edit: sorry jen, we will never be together :(
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I'm not saying all blacks are ghetto thugs and stuff
...but that's exactly what you are saying :dunno:
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I'm not saying all blacks are ghetto thugs and stuff
...but that's exactly what you are saying :dunno:
Not ALL of them, just any of them that would defile our pure white women with their niggerseed
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I have never really understood how anybody can be judged by skin color and skin color alone. I grew up in an environment that had little to no color bias and was well into high school before I really understood how nasty these things could get outside of my community. I judge folks on how they present themselves as well as how they conduct themselves. Seems the only practical way that such a personal judgement could be levied.
That said, what I consider acceptable or reasonable behavior and what any other given person considers such should and will vary nearly infinitely.
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Damn them and their defiling ways!
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I'm not saying all blacks are ghetto thugs and stuff
...but that's exactly what you are saying :dunno:
no i'm not
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Really? Because that's how it sounds.
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I think people from New Jersey should be excluded too, because you're from there and rick's from there and that's just too risky for me.
edit: sorry jen, we will never be together :(
:cry: my dreams are ruined! besides, i'm obviously of a defiling nature also.
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Really? Because that's how it sounds.
I cannot meet and research every african american male the potential girl may have slept with. Since this is the case the disguisting nature of the majority of said race excludes them all. If a girl has messed with a black dude i am going to assume hes a crack dealer scumbag and scratch her off the list.
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You ever think that the problem isn't the guys but the women you choose?
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Well that's the entire point of his system!
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You ever think that the problem isn't the guys but the women you choose?
I have no doubt that this statement holds partial truths.
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I know lots of white dudes who are skeezy redneck fucks that make meth in their trailers and beat their wives. You gonna stop dating girls that date them?
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rod, didn't you just come from living in a trailer park in florida? high society? i'm not knocking trailer parks, but dude - you should really take a look at your own damn self before opening up you mouth
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I know lots of white dudes who are skeezy redneck fucks that make meth in their trailers and beat their wives.
Who told you about my cousins?
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Mike for the win.
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rod, didn't you just come from living in a trailer park in florida? high society? i'm not knocking trailer parks, but dude - you should really take a look at your own damn self before opening up you mouth
Theres a major difference between trailer parks and the lower rung im talking about. If you havent spent any amount of time in it, i dont expect you to get it.
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That's semantic horseshit. If your intentions were as innocent as you're making it out to be, you wouldn't date anyone that dated lower class people, not blacks. Then again, you're RoD and it's amazing you haven't drowned in a glass of water by now.
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That's semantic horseshit. If your intentions were as innocent as you're making it out to be, you wouldn't date anyone that dated lower class people, not blacks. Then again, you're RoD and it's amazing you haven't drowned in a glass of water by now.
I ask questions about all the ex's. I'm just saying that dating a black person is auto exclusion based on the rampid disguisting nature of the vast majority of their race. You dont get it, thats fine. Enjoy your bubble.
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Anyone want to use their "STFU RoD" card?
I'm ready for this now.
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:rolleyes:
Do i have to pick you up and take you for a ride through the real world?
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I'd love to see your real world where black men are scum because they've got more melanin than you and not because of hundreds of years of systematic repression and persecution. It's really a good thing that so many of them live in ghettos so we don't have to see them or even acknowledge the fact that they even exist until we see a news story where one of them gets arrested and we can just shake our heads in disapproval before turning back to our conversations about how rough it is to be a white heterosexual male in the most powerful country in the history of the world. Sure is rough in this world.
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rampid disguisting nature of the vast majority of their race.
That kind of viciously bigoted shit does your argument no good at all. There are good blacks, and there are bad blacks, just like there are good whites and bad whites, or yellows, or pinks, or coffee-coloured. Don't you get it? Skin colour has FUCK ALL TO DO WITH IT. It's as mad as saying saying I wouldn't sleep with someone who wears yellow jumpers.
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And you guys think i'm the ignorant one.
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You are ignorant you racist piece of shit.
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And you guys think i'm the ignorant one.
Yes. Yes we do.
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It's as mad as saying saying I wouldn't sleep with someone who wears yellow jumpers.
I sure as hell hope you wouldn't!
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(Shhhhh. You're destroying my point)
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The sick part is, in RoD's twisted little head this probably passes for logic. Think about it: He only associates with scum because he is scum and nobody respectable would have anything to do with him, so he only meets other victims of inbreeding. This includes black men, and since they act and talk differently, he gets to extrapolate that the entire race is fucked without ever seeing that he's their paler-skinned counterpart in shitheaddom.
Note that I didn't say this was logical.
And you guys think i'm the ignorant one.
Pretty much.
As someone who's never let race get in the way of enjoying himself, I think you're a disgusting pile of racist shit. I think Cheez already phrased it that way, but it's totally true.
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Anyone want to use their "STFU RoD" card?
I'm ready for this now.
Wow... no one beat me to it? Done. He's got 15 days to cool off unless someone else lifts it.
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Anyone want to use their "STFU RoD" card?
I'm ready for this now.
Wow... no one beat me to it? Done. He's got 15 days to cool off unless someone else lifts it.
Sorry, was busy getting bitch slapped by mother nature and her traffic buddy.
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Anyone want to use their "STFU RoD" card?
I'm ready for this now.
Wow... no one beat me to it? Done. He's got 15 days to cool off unless someone else lifts it.
I was waiting for him to hang himself, but that's fine too.
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Seriously 15 days??? I vote Lift it. He'd cooled. This thread had about died and talking about spiders. Disagreeing with his opinion (which I certainly do) is no reason to ban him. He wasn't being am ass about it.
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It's a fair point kermi. He is entitled to his opinion, as obnoxious as it may seem to the rest of us, and I don't think he crossed any borders in terms of abusing anyone. In fact, we probably crossed that line instead. If I don't see a post to the contrary by the end of today I'll lift it.
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Racism has no place in society, especially not modern society. Trying to justify abhorrent beliefs by saying right-thinking people "just don't get it" is even worse.
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I guess the question becomes: Do we as a group/community/whatever wish to allow the spouting off of racism?
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I guess the question becomes: Do we as a group/community/whatever wish to allow the spouting off of racism?
Disagree. The question becomes do we wish to allow freedom of speech surely. However abhorrent it is, RoD is entitled to his opinion, no? Rather than ban him we should destroy his argument.
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I guess the question becomes: Do we as a group/community/whatever wish to allow the spouting off of racism?
Disagree. The question becomes do we wish to allow freedom of speech surely. However abhorrent it is, RoD is entitled to his opinion, no? Rather than ban him we should destroy his argument.
Bang on the money! If people can be banned for expressing their opinions in this way, then I see no point in participating at all. As much as I don't want to make this personal, I can't help but mention how much I dislike the way Govt. posts in this thread. RoD is being completely polite, and while I completely disagree with RoD, I find myself rolling my eyes at Govt.'s (and others', though) abusive responses, containing little actual discussion.
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we should destroy his argument.
Good luck with that. I've been in enough of these to know that he's just going to keep spouting the same "you don't get it" shit. Because his job specifically entails him dealing with people that are wanted for one crime or another and are overwhelmingly black that's probably more or less his only regular encounters with black people. If he looked into things a little more it'd be clear that his views are totally wrong, but he's already shown a complete lack of ability for self-examination
> RoD is being completely polite, and while I completely disagree with RoD, I find myself rolling my eyes at Govt.'s (and others', though) abusive responses
I see no reason to be civil with people like that. If someone came in here talking about the master race and how jews deserved extermination, he would get piled on, and rightfully so.
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I...I just feel uncomfortable with banning someone for what are effectively opinions. I've always tried to defend peoples right to their views, even if the views themselves are indefensible.
Ultimately it makes little difference to me whether RoD remains banned or not. I'll respect the views of my fellow mods that the ban remains.
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You guys can unban him if you want, but I see it not really as an endorsement of racist speech but at least an acceptance of it, and that's wrong imo. Again, if someone came in here and starting spouting Nazi nonsense I doubt the feeling would be the same.
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I thought the ban was more for the rest of the forum to cool off than for RoD to cool off. :dunno:
And whether or not the forum allows someone to express those kind of views is a legitimate question (i.e. whether he should be banned for racist statements). I can see valid reasoning on both sides.
On the one side, we are pretty much all adults who engage in adult discussions. Suppressing certain opinions because they are inflammatory and bigoted implies that we are somehow unable to handle contradictory views. This is a site dedicated to random shit, it's not like we're a programming help forum and this distracts from our ultimate goals. In addition, we allow discussion of other forms of bigotry that are more widely accepted in our societies, so why is the line drawn in front of RoD instead of behind him?
On the other hand, this is a place we all come to enjoy ourselves. Having people post such incendiary ideas changes the atmosphere of the forum and clearly causes emotional reactions in its members. It is perfectly acceptable to try to maintain a civil environment for all of us. In addition, you never know which members are directly offended by hateful statements. It is one thing to have an environment where the atmosphere isn't perfect because people post offensive things, it is entirely another where people directly offend other members with their posts.
I don't agree that allowing someone to post stupid shit is an acceptance of said stupid shit. If we don't accept what someone says as a valid opinion, we say so. There's no need to suppress an opinion to indicate that the forum members in general think it is abhorrent.
I honestly don't know what's best. I'd personally lean towards not banning him for racist remarks, but I also don't like the idea of allowing somebody to post offensively without some kind of repercussion. Personally I'm fine with a temporary ban to let the forum cool off and hopefully when he comes back the topic is dead. Again, :dunno:.
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I...I just feel uncomfortable with banning someone for what are effectively opinions. I've always tried to defend peoples right to their views, even if the views themselves are indefensible.
Ultimately it makes little difference to me whether RoD remains banned or not. I'll respect the views of my fellow mods that the ban remains.
I support ober's banning but at the same time it could have been less. I'd also support you if you wanted to unban him. One of the reasons we have many mods is for checking purposes.
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I have no problem with him being banned for that. What he said was undoubtably completely racist and I think drawing the line at that is perfectly reasonable.
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It's a fair point kermi. He is entitled to his opinion, as obnoxious as it may seem to the rest of us, and I don't think he crossed any borders in terms of abusing anyone. In fact, we probably crossed that line instead. If I don't see a post to the contrary by the end of today I'll lift it.
I've purposely stayed out of this thread but I will chime in here to say I agree 100% with Kermi and RobR's sentiments. I don't condone the spewing of racism, but honestly, some of you guys just sounded like total ass-holes.
perhaps the more mature thing to do would be say, "this debate can clearly not reach a mutual agreement and needs to be ended. Thread Closed."
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Yeah. I disagree with banning for having a difference of opinion.
Kill the ban and end this dismal thread.
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I didn't ban him primarily for his statements. I banned him for Cheez asking to use his STFU card. I agree that free speech should be allowed, but I thought things were getting out of hand. Someone had to STFU for a bit, IMO.
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Then can we just close the thread rather than banning? It wasn't spreading to other threads or anything. Plenty other fun conversations were going on...
I disapprove of what you say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it.
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don't close the thread - this is not cprog :p
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don't close the thread - this is not cprog :p
HAHAHAHA
And I'm not personally going to lift the ban. If someone else wants to, be my guest.
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I disabled the ban. I clearly think the kid's a raging idiot, but I think we're all mature enough to handle eachothers' viewpoints and bile. If he wants to go on telling us the darkies are inferior and disgusting, I'll go on telling him in no uncertain terms that I think he's a worthless stain on humanity. The only way to deal with an asshole is to be a dick, not a pussy.
I do think a temporary ban was a good way of telling him that kind of stuff isn't welcome here though.
If he comes back, good for him. If he doesn't, maybe he's moved on to more appropriate Web sites, like klanchat.com.
Much love.
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This is highly amusing though, and sorta makes me rethink the unbanning.
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Color (lol) me shocked that he's always been a racist idiot.
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I'm not a mod, so do what you want, but banning him, or anyone, isn't stifling free speech. He's free to spout off to anyone who'll listen, but no one has to provide him a forum to do so. I wouldn't allow that crap from someone at my house, but there's no free speech infringement when I tell him to shut up or get out. It's censorship when government says you can't use your or my (with my permission) soapbox. It's not censorship when I say you can't use my soapbox.
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I agree that this isn't really an issue of free speech. The first amendment only states that the GOVERNMENT can not make a law that limits speech. But on private property or a privately run message board, there's no such rule. So with that in mind, you can ban anyone any time.
That said, there are better ways to handle situations like this. I have a number of friends in the real world who hold vastly different opinions on various topics. Some of them I think are morally wrong opinions. But you know what, they're still my friends. They know where I stand on the issues and they (generally) know not to spew their hatred in front of me and life goes on.
Tolerance is a funny thing. Everyone's for it - as long as your talking about other people tolerating YOUR point of view.
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God knows I disagree with micah and just about everything he stands for...
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God knows I disagree with micah and just about everything he stands for...
He is from a state without any county government. That is just unnatural ;)
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God knows I disagree with micah and just about everything he stands for...
Shocking.
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:D
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Thanks guys. I was trying to be civil, and thought i was. When i saw the ban i was annoyed cause let's face it sometimes i deserve the bans, but it gets a little out of hand sometimes when im just expressing an opinion.
I wasnt mad or anything, but i was really suprised at the time frame. In any event i was happy when i opened FF and my speeddial had refreshed to show the index again. Thanks :)
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>im just expressing an opinion.
"Just expressing an opinion" is a shitty excuse. "I don't like Mexican food" is an opinion. "I'm not a fan of polka music" is an opinion. "I think black men are subhuman" is hate speech, and there is absolutely no reason to treat someone espousing that shit with anything less than utter contempt.
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Govt lay off. He's laid out his opinion, you've said what you think of it - most of us have expressed our opinions as well. There's no good to come from continuing to bring it up. Rod has been pretty clear what his opinion is (politely in the face of all of us calling him things I might add) - and if you read what he's said, he never said "I think black men are subhuman" and even if he implied it - fine, he said his piece, take that and quit respecting him - there's no point in bringing it up over and over.
Lay off.
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I am sorry I have offended you kermi :(
> he never said "I think black men are subhuman"
He never said that exact quote but he has said that a woman who dated one is off limits, which is pretty much the same thing.
edit: I mean Jesus
"dating a black person is auto exclusion based on the rampid disguisting nature of the vast majority of their race."
"the disguisting nature of the majority of said race"
I really can't believe that I'm getting so much shit for calling out RoD of all people on racism.
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I really can't believe that I'm getting so much shit for calling out RoD of all people on racism
i agree totally...
Following the accepted precedent I can say, "I fucking hate RETARDS!!!", since it's somehow less offensive than just directly insulting an entropy sink member who I believe should not be allowed to interact with society without supervision.
By the way, my brother's wife is black. EAT SHIT!
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OK, if we've all said our piece I think that's more than enough.