Aw, does rod want to take away private business owners' rights of not allowing patrons to bring weapons into their establishment?
Not at all, it is their right to post all of the signs they want. In most states those signs actually carry no legal weight at all, you can still carry. If a employee spots your handgun and asks you to leave, though, you have to leave or return it to your car. Every business owner has the right to care for their business as they see fit. Maybe they are anti gun, it doesn't matter it is their business. I know a guy who is very pro gun and owns a tee shirt printing business. He has a no firearms sign posted because he keeps his gun on him to protect the business and does not want someone coming in and playing cowboy or getting shot in a mixup.
Believe it or not, rod, the vast majority of people don't want to carry guns around with them. no matter what their stance on gun control is.
No disagreement here, and I don't recall ever saying they should have too or even want too. That is the beauty of America, it is their decision! All I said was that the state should allow them the option too carry in stadiums, theaters, etc because the state has no business saying they cannot. If the property owner says it, different story. But again criminals ignore these signs, so it does nothing but disarm the good guys.
My underlying issue is with the states that pass the laws to keep guns out of specific places where large groups of people gather. They establish requirements to deem CPL holders as the good guys, trustworthy and honest and trained in firearms and safety. So if you are going to go through all of that to issue a CPL stop restricting it on oxymoron theories.
I will find my book later and post the exact location, date, and details of the following statement, I just can't now because it's on my dresser and Ashley is asleep. There was an incident at a cafe, in Texas I believe, where a man drove his truck into the building, then got out and began shooting innocent people. He killed something like 9 people in just a few seconds. A man who had been in the bathroom exited to see what was happening, pulled his handgun and shot the man, killing him. He saved an estimated 15 lives that could potentially have been lost, and several were able to be treated because he ended the assault.
The guy hated guns, but wanted to protect himself. Likely would not have gone so well in the Denver shooting, but we won't know.
