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Entertainment & Artistry => Music => Topic started by: A Bit of Fruit on May 28, 2005, 10:18:03 PM

Title: OMG They're doing it on purpose!
Post by: A Bit of Fruit on May 28, 2005, 10:18:03 PM
When a band that i like brings out a new album i expect them not to change their overall style. Most bands do...the most notable being St Anger by Metallica, turning me off them forever.

Now, i got the new System of a Down album and they didnt change their style with this new album ("Mezmerize") that much in my opinon, the biggest change being the more involvment of the guitarist in the vocals. And I like this album, as i like their previous albums.

HERES THE DISCOVERY

I was playing it and i said to my sister (20yrs old, listens to all the gay MTV stuff, despite being a very musically educated person) "hey check it out, its the new system album" to which she replied "meh it sounds the same as all their other stuff".

Eurika! She didnt like it for the reason that i DID like it: became it was the same as their previous albums! So thats why these bands (Metallica, Slipknot, Korn) bring out albums that are away from their original style: because mainstream listeners LIKE IT WHEN THEY DO IT!!

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Title: OMG They're doing it on purpose!
Post by: Exluddite on May 28, 2005, 10:26:32 PM
Quote from: Farticus Senior

 So thats why these bands (Metallica, Slipknot, Korn) bring out albums that are away from their original style: because mainstream listeners LIKE IT WHEN THEY DO IT!!

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If that's true, explain Aerosmith, AC/DC,  and top 40 music for the last 20 years or so.
Title: OMG They're doing it on purpose!
Post by: A Bit of Fruit on May 28, 2005, 10:38:38 PM
what about Aerosmith, AC/DC, and top 40 music for the last 20 years?
Title: OMG They're doing it on purpose!
Post by: Exluddite on May 28, 2005, 10:41:58 PM
They all have sounded exactly the same, yet have all been very popular.
Title: OMG They're doing it on purpose!
Post by: A Bit of Fruit on May 28, 2005, 10:46:06 PM
im talking about today's teens, grandpa

also lots of people (many of which i know) listen to bands like them just for the cool factor
Title: OMG They're doing it on purpose!
Post by: Exluddite on May 28, 2005, 11:00:57 PM
Quote from: Farticus Senior

also lots of people (many of which i know) listen to bands like them just for the cool factor

Quite a departure from when I was a teenager.
Title: OMG They're doing it on purpose!
Post by: A Bit of Fruit on May 28, 2005, 11:10:07 PM
i mean they're all like "look at me i like AC/DC im so cool...whats the name of a song i like of theirs? Um...i dont really remember the names...i just uhhhh..."
Title: OMG They're doing it on purpose!
Post by: Mike on May 28, 2005, 11:14:02 PM
I love System of a Down even though their polictical view is much different from mine.

And hey I can't remember a song to save my ass so fuck ya ;)
Title: OMG They're doing it on purpose!
Post by: Govtcheez on May 28, 2005, 11:21:29 PM
Quote from: Exluddite
If that's true, explain Aerosmith, AC/DC,  and top 40 music for the last 20 years or so.

That's not fair.  AC/DC not only has the same style in every song; every song is exactly the same.  Scientific fact.  Also, Aerosmith has been a wuss band for years now.  C'mon, they did "Don't wanna miss a thing", for chrissakes!
Title: OMG They're doing it on purpose!
Post by: A Bit of Fruit on May 28, 2005, 11:23:25 PM
Quote from: Mike
I love System of a Down even though their polictical view is much different from mine.

And hey I can't remember a song to save my ass so fuck ya ;)

Yeah but you do genuinly like them...you dont just pretend to. You dont buy all their merchandise just because you want people to think you're 'rock'
Title: OMG They're doing it on purpose!
Post by: Exluddite on May 28, 2005, 11:28:56 PM
My favorite AC/DC quote:
Quote
When asked once if the band had just made ten albums that all sounded the same, Angus responded "That's bullshit. We have made eleven albums that sound the same."
Title: OMG They're doing it on purpose!
Post by: ygfperson on May 29, 2005, 01:45:34 AM
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I love System of a Down even though their polictical view is much different from mine.

You mean "everybody's fucked" and "war is bad"?

bands can't have the same music all the time. that's like saying that once you're 25, you're pretty much the same for the next 20 years. everybody grows. if you had to listen to system of a down constantly for 5 years (by playing it), wouldn't you want to change your style a bit for variety?
Title: OMG They're doing it on purpose!
Post by: A Bit of Fruit on May 29, 2005, 01:50:29 AM
>> wouldn't you want to change your style a bit for variety?

well its not as if i just listen to one or two bands excusively
Title: OMG They're doing it on purpose!
Post by: ygfperson on May 29, 2005, 05:05:14 AM
i meant to say that if you were a band member, wouldn't you get sick of hearing youself play the same thing after a while
Title: OMG They're doing it on purpose!
Post by: A Bit of Fruit on May 29, 2005, 05:07:12 AM
nope
Title: OMG They're doing it on purpose!
Post by: [stealth] on May 29, 2005, 04:25:01 PM
When I was your age (here comes the grandpa speech) I used to be a Metallica fan...then they released the single "Turn The Page".  And I hated the song; I wouldn't even give it a chance.  Now I think it's perhaps one of their best songs.  

Sure, AC/DC haven't changed all that much, but they're using a timeless template for their music - blues and hard rock.  The stuff's never gonna grow old; it'll always be popular.  A band like Korn is only going to have a limited shelf life because they're very much of their time - much like so many "hippie" bands of the late 60's, glam and disco groups of the 70's and cock rockers of the 80's.  

Nu-metal is a genre that has pretty much exhausted itself in the public eye.  SOAD are one of the few bands that survived that period because they were never strictly speaking of that genre - to me they are more of a modern metal band that have changed their style just enough on each album, just as Pearl Jam have survived because they had nothing in common with Nirvana even though they were both lumped in together as "grunge" bands.  Heck, even Nirvana changed their style by the end.
Title: OMG They're doing it on purpose!
Post by: Govtcheez on May 29, 2005, 05:23:54 PM
I wish I would have saved the page from flashdaddee where you said St Anger was really growing on you :)
Title: OMG They're doing it on purpose!
Post by: ygfperson on May 29, 2005, 10:54:09 PM
http://www.rpi.edu/~schneg/stanger.html

i couldn't find anything where he says it grew on him though. this link pretty much has him hating it
Title: OMG They're doing it on purpose!
Post by: Govtcheez on May 29, 2005, 11:07:14 PM
How'd you do that?

And it was in one of the threads where you just post what you're listening to.
Title: OMG They're doing it on purpose!
Post by: ygfperson on May 29, 2005, 11:38:11 PM
ah, here it is:
http://www.rpi.edu/~schneg/stanger2.html
Title: OMG They're doing it on purpose!
Post by: A Bit of Fruit on May 30, 2005, 02:30:24 AM
meh it sucks...that thread proves that i always thought it was shit. I dont remember saying it was ever growing on me...
Title: OMG They're doing it on purpose!
Post by: Rob on May 30, 2005, 04:07:46 AM
Quote from: '[stealthy
']When I was your age


You crazy kids and your hep-cat music...

:D
Title: OMG They're doing it on purpose!
Post by: [stealth] on May 30, 2005, 09:49:43 PM
Quote from: Farticus Senior
meh it sucks...that thread proves that i always thought it was shit. I dont remember saying it was ever growing on me...


That were me.