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Title: This is nothing but a recollection
Post by: -KEN- on June 16, 2005, 02:55:22 AM
I finally told my best friend, Stacy, that I was gay tonight. I don't know. We went to a bar, I snuck in, got really drunk...she drove me home...we talked...yeah, she knows. I had to tell her. I was going insane. Anyway. I'll answer this thread later while sober.

I need this  as a memory aid, though.

Adios. Lovely night. Talk to you guys tomorrow. :-*
Title: This is nothing but a recollection
Post by: -KEN- on June 16, 2005, 03:15:04 AM
Ok so honestly I told her a few weeks ago  (maybe a week?) when I was really drunk that I was gay. She told me it was cool and that was that. I figured that she had forgotten because she never brought it up, but tonight...I told her. Flat out. She was really cool with it, and even told me that she had wondered (because, even though I might have a deep-ass voice, and act as straight as possible...) if I was gay. I've never had a GF, and it was weird, because I'm not ugly[/ii]....so wow. Everything worked out great. I'm so happy.

I'm not sure if I make any sense, but god am I so happy.
Title: This is nothing but a recollection
Post by: Govtcheez on June 16, 2005, 07:16:48 AM
Way to go, bud.  You going to tell any other people?

Also, what are you doing at a bar?  You're far too young and innocent!
Title: This is nothing but a recollection
Post by: ober on June 16, 2005, 08:11:27 AM
That's awesome -Ken-.  My wife works with a girl about your age who is gay and pretty much hasn't told anyone and it's eating her up inside because her parent's are "holy rollers" and would probably send her off to God-counseling.  It sucks for this girl because she lives in a town where letting that out could cause major problems for her.  People around there can't grasp such a thing and would probably push her down a dark, dark path (she's already considered suicide).

So now that I've probably said too much, I'm glad that you have someone you can let it out to.  I don't think it's good to keep that kind of secret bottled up inside you, although I know sometimes that is the way it has to be.
Title: This is nothing but a recollection
Post by: drakkenkorin on June 16, 2005, 08:47:49 AM
>>I was gay<<

OMG - I HAD NO IDEA!!!!  :D

eh, i lost a few friends when i came out to them, but i said at the time (and still say) - fuck'em.  

and now i have no friends :(

:D
Title: This is nothing but a recollection
Post by: A Bit of Fruit on June 16, 2005, 08:58:21 AM
>> eh, i lost a few friends when i came out to them

these people are morons
Title: This is nothing but a recollection
Post by: [stealth] on June 16, 2005, 09:10:15 AM
Good for you man :) You should never be ashamed of who you are, and any mother fucker who says otherwise would have to deal with me first :cool2:
Title: This is nothing but a recollection
Post by: Howdy on June 16, 2005, 10:05:12 AM
Howdy,
 OK so as a straight person, Why would it matter to me if you are gay or not? I work will people that are gay and people that can't work with people that are gay.
For the most part we all seem to get along just fine.
  I guess this coming out deal must be a huge event in the gay community.
 

M.R.
Title: This is nothing but a recollection
Post by: Govtcheez on June 16, 2005, 10:16:25 AM
> Why would it matter to me if you are gay or not?

>  people that can't work with people that are gay.

That seems to be the big deal about it.  Some people can't deal with it, and I'd imagine it's a relief when you find out that people you care about are ok with it.
Title: This is nothing but a recollection
Post by: drakkenkorin on June 16, 2005, 10:27:28 AM
throw into the mix ultra right wing fanatics who take every work in that old book as a literal truth.

besides, when i came out, i learned who my real friends were.  them other people were just crowding my stlye.
Title: This is nothing but a recollection
Post by: Jake on June 16, 2005, 12:05:57 PM
Our Ken is growing up so fast :aw:
Title: This is nothing but a recollection
Post by: jkim on June 16, 2005, 12:14:23 PM
That's cool, man.  I'm glad it worked out.
Title: This is nothing but a recollection
Post by: Bassy on June 16, 2005, 01:37:50 PM
Quote from: axon
Our Ken is growing up so fast :aw:

damn axon stole my line - he used to be this little sweet faced cherubic little boy and then DK corrupted him
Title: This is nothing but a recollection
Post by: drakkenkorin on June 16, 2005, 02:19:17 PM
o no, not done.

i have many more to corrupt :devil:
Title: This is nothing but a recollection
Post by: -KEN- on June 16, 2005, 03:15:19 PM
Quote from: Howdy
Howdy,
 OK so as a straight person, Why would it matter to me if you are gay or not? I work will people that are gay and people that can't work with people that are gay.
For the most part we all seem to get along just fine.
  I guess this coming out deal must be a huge event in the gay community.
 

M.R.


There shouldn't have to be such a thing as "coming out." In a perfect world, I could chat up some guy, we could start dating, and nobody would have a problem with that.

This world is far from perfect.

Because of that, I'm forced to not only to bottle everything up inside of me for 18+ years -- until either I'm comfortable enough with myself to potentially lose friends or family over it, or when it becomes too soul-crushingly heavy of a burden to bear any longer (or, alternately, I get really drunk and say stupid things) -- but also to tell people close to me so that I can finally start dating with impunity.

And anyway, there's a slight difference between your coworkers and one of my closest friends who I've known since I was 4 or so. It's not like I'm going to be meeting people up in Gainesville and saying "Oh, hey, my name is Ken and I enjoy penis in my mouth."

I suppose the hardest thing is family. More or less, there's a very positive correlation to how long you've known a person and how incredibly hard it is to tell them. You've lied to them, very consciously, for your entire relationship. That's not a good thing any way you slice it.

So to answer you question: It shouldn't matter. In fact, the less it matters to you the better. But as my friend, you (not necessarily you, but in a broad sense) should at least know.
Title: This is nothing but a recollection
Post by: drakkenkorin on June 16, 2005, 03:27:02 PM
>>I enjoy penis in my mouth<<

I have that on my business cards.
Title: This is nothing but a recollection
Post by: VBprogrammer on June 16, 2005, 03:44:21 PM
Good for you ken, can you now read DK's sig?
Title: This is nothing but a recollection
Post by: 7smurfs on June 16, 2005, 03:55:57 PM
Unfortunatly the world is filled with biggots, so I do feel bad for you having to deal with those that will...put you down for it.

But, like you said, screw them =)

Good job!
Title: This is nothing but a recollection
Post by: groovitude on June 16, 2005, 05:26:58 PM
>> But, like you said, screw them =) <<

Because then you'd either freak them out or convert them to a member of your team.  :D

Glad to hear that you've got a good friend that you can trust.  I can't imagine that to have been an easy thing for you to do, to say the very least.
Title: This is nothing but a recollection
Post by: drakkenkorin on June 16, 2005, 05:49:58 PM
Quote from: VBprogrammer
Good for you ken, can you now read DK's sig?

so you can read that sig huh  :eek:
Title: This is nothing but a recollection
Post by: Stephen on June 16, 2005, 05:53:49 PM
What sig?
Title: This is nothing but a recollection
Post by: VBprogrammer on June 16, 2005, 06:23:49 PM
Yeah, i had a gay guy fancy me on holiday, got really pissed off when i slept with his (female) friend...really hoping that guy had a fault in his gay-dar..
Title: This is nothing but a recollection
Post by: salvelinus on June 16, 2005, 07:12:09 PM
If it's not me, my wife, my kids or my dog, I couldn't care less who people have sex with.




Actually, scratch the dog, you can have sex with him.
Title: This is nothing but a recollection
Post by: Govtcheez on June 16, 2005, 07:34:29 PM
Thanks!
Title: This is nothing but a recollection
Post by: ober on June 16, 2005, 07:52:51 PM
Quote from: Govtcheez
Thanks!

TMI!
Title: This is nothing but a recollection
Post by: Howdy on June 16, 2005, 10:18:11 PM
Howdy,
Quote
You've lied to them, very consciously, for your entire relationship.

  Yea I guess thats a tough one. I lied about being a drugrie during that period of my life, a little different but still a lie.
  Well anyways good going Ken.

M.R.
Title: This is nothing but a recollection
Post by: Exluddite on June 16, 2005, 10:42:13 PM
Like Zappa said, you are what you is. I had a friend come out a while back, and his main fear was how we'd all react. The reaction that he so feared turned out to be pretty much a collective shrug. Then again, my friends tend to be a pretty liberal group, so milage may vary.
Actually, that reminds me. I should call him some time in the near future. Gotta keep in touch with good friends. They're hard to find no matter who they sleep with.