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Technical & Scientific => Programming => Topic started by: JaWiB on August 25, 2008, 05:15:05 PM

Title: IE Background image problem
Post by: JaWiB on August 25, 2008, 05:15:05 PM
Third time trying to post this...First time it says I can't attach an html file, then the second time it says I already posted it (but I don't see the thread, so hopefully there's no double post)

I wanted to add a little image next to links that go to an external site, but I ran into a problem. As usual, it works fine in Firefox and Opera, but IE does it differently. When the text wraps (due to the size of my sidebar) instead of the image appearing at the same level as the text, it gets covered by the text and is positioned between the lines.

I'll attach an example (the html file is renamed to .txt). Any thoughts on how to fix this?
Title: Re: IE Background image problem
Post by: hans on August 25, 2008, 06:26:09 PM
Make the icon go in front?

Honestly, lately I've been getting really upset with wasting a lot of time trying to get stupid stuff to work in IE. Almost to the point that I don't care if my site doesn't work in IE.

If only I didn't work for "the man" and have to program for corporate drones.
Title: Re: IE Background image problem
Post by: hans on August 25, 2008, 06:34:09 PM
Possible solution:

http://adipalaz.awardspace.com/linksbg-en.html
Title: Re: IE Background image problem
Post by: JaWiB on August 25, 2008, 07:31:28 PM
I tried the icon in front, and it looked kinda funny.

Sounds like the only solution is to actually change the markup on the page, which would be a pain since I'm using XSLT 1.0 to generate the markup. (I don't think the server supports XSLT 2.0, or at least I get errors when I try to use those functions server-side)

I think I just won't display the images for IE.
Title: Re: IE Background image problem
Post by: hans on August 25, 2008, 09:02:34 PM
Maybe dashed underline it for IE or something?
Title: Re: IE Background image problem
Post by: Steve on August 26, 2008, 11:02:50 AM
I have been having a ton of trouble with IE as well. My solution has been to deploy a configuration for opera and FF as the default, and if IE is detected a seperate design is used.
Title: Re: IE Background image problem
Post by: JaWiB on August 26, 2008, 01:18:47 PM
Dashed underline's a good idea

I use the same CSS file for all browsers, but use conditional comments to overwrite certain styles that don't appear correctly in IE. The only other difference is sending my pages as text/html to IE instead of application/xhtml+xml
Title: Re: IE Background image problem
Post by: KnuckleBuckett on August 26, 2008, 10:15:31 PM
Anyone check out IE 8 B1 yet?
Title: Re: IE Background image problem
Post by: ober on August 26, 2008, 10:47:13 PM
Fack no.
Title: Re: IE Background image problem
Post by: Steve on August 27, 2008, 01:05:05 AM
did he seriously just ask us that?
Title: Re: IE Background image problem
Post by: KnuckleBuckett on August 27, 2008, 06:31:37 AM
I thought you checked these kinds of things when you write SW.  Just wondered.
Title: Re: IE Background image problem
Post by: Mike on August 27, 2008, 07:37:10 AM
IMO IE8 is completely irrelevant as a browser.  IE7 hasn't gained widespread usage and IE users are not going to be the ones to update their browser as soon as a new version comes out.
Title: Re: IE Background image problem
Post by: ober on August 27, 2008, 08:38:35 AM
IMO IE8 is completely irrelevant as a browser.  IE7 hasn't gained widespread usage and IE users are not going to be the ones to update their browser as soon as a new version comes out.
Exactly.
Title: Re: IE Background image problem
Post by: hans on August 27, 2008, 09:39:06 AM
There are three modes that IE8 can render, named, "Quirks," "Strict," and "Standard."

And they're still all going to suck compared to any of the other browsers. I'd say it's time for IE to get with the times before they find themselves behind Firefox.
Title: Re: IE Background image problem
Post by: Steve on August 27, 2008, 10:00:53 AM
im waiting for FF or Opera to be the new bundled browser.
Title: Re: IE Background image problem
Post by: micah on August 28, 2008, 10:29:38 AM
Microsoft Internet Explorer 8 to Include 'Porn Mode' (http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,412161,00.html)
Title: Re: IE Background image problem
Post by: Mike on August 28, 2008, 10:37:01 AM
Unless you are surfing porn on a public computer what is the big fucking deal?  OMG I, like the vast majority of males with computer access, look at porn.  Wow what a fucking surprise.
Title: Re: IE Background image problem
Post by: ober on August 28, 2008, 10:38:12 AM
And you, unlike some of us old married folk, apparently don't share your computer with anyone else.
Title: Re: IE Background image problem
Post by: Mike on August 28, 2008, 10:41:43 AM
So you have to keep your porn a secret from your wife?  That is pretty sad man.
Title: Re: IE Background image problem
Post by: Steve on August 28, 2008, 10:47:22 AM
I bet they arent hidden from MS lmao. And yea dude why hide it?
Title: Re: IE Background image problem
Post by: Mike on August 28, 2008, 10:58:30 AM
Besides anything that still allows the police to get it (presumably off of the computer itself) is still wide open for others to look at.
Title: Re: IE Background image problem
Post by: KnuckleBuckett on August 28, 2008, 05:09:20 PM
I would hope it is less for partners and more for children that may share the PC.
Title: Re: IE Background image problem
Post by: ober on August 28, 2008, 08:12:55 PM
I would hope it is less for partners and more for children that may share the PC.
Bingo.  I've watched porn with my wife... so I'm not exactly hiding it from her.
Title: Re: IE Background image problem
Post by: Mike on August 28, 2008, 08:15:06 PM
And you, unlike some of us old married folk, apparently don't share your computer with anyone else.
Since you mentioned marriage it is only logical to assume the other person was the spouse.

Have you ever heard of this great thing they call user accounts and passwords?

From what the article mentioned it really isn't keeping it off of your computer, just hiding it from the browser and not sending out referers
Title: Re: IE Background image problem
Post by: ober on August 28, 2008, 10:16:26 PM
Actually, it is keeping it off the computer... it doesn't store history, cookies, etc. when you have it turned on.

And fuck user accounts... you think I'm going to store 30 gig of porn in "My Documents"?
Title: Re: IE Background image problem
Post by: Mike on August 28, 2008, 10:56:44 PM
No... that is what the "My Porn" folder is for...

Edit: And seriously, you don't use multiple computer accounts?  Just from a basic ease of computer use I'd think you'd do it.

Oh and the article mentioned
Quote
Although casual users cannot see the previous user’s search history, authorities such as the police will be able to access it if necessary.
Which means it is either being stored somewhere or being transmitted somewhere.
Title: Re: IE Background image problem
Post by: Steve on August 29, 2008, 12:58:51 AM
yea its stored somewhere for legal purposes im sure. And thank god you said that obes cuz me and the ex used to watch porn and if u had to hide it from ur wife.....strange
Title: Re: IE Background image problem
Post by: micah on August 29, 2008, 06:47:20 AM
I think there's a difference between watching pr0n with your spouse and lurking about the internet for hardcore S&M.  A spouse may not have a problem with some material, in the context of the bedroom, every once in a while... but that doesn't mean she's cool with you surfin' for jailbait or 2G1C when she's not home.

I think its all about intent.
Title: Re: IE Background image problem
Post by: KnuckleBuckett on August 29, 2008, 07:32:26 AM
Why
The
Fuck

would I want to hassle with user accounts at home.

No WAY!
Title: Re: IE Background image problem
Post by: KnuckleBuckett on August 29, 2008, 07:33:22 AM
I think there's a difference between watching pr0n with your spouse and lurking about the internet for hardcore S&M.  A spouse may not have a problem with some material, in the context of the bedroom, every once in a while... but that doesn't mean she's cool with you surfin' for jailbait or 2G1C when she's not home.

I think its all about intent.

I know you were serious, but twice I laughed out loud.  Great wording!  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: IE Background image problem
Post by: ober on August 29, 2008, 09:06:04 AM
Why
The
Fuck

would I want to hassle with user accounts at home.

No WAY!

Exactly.  That means I have to manage backups and everything from 2 accounts.  All she does is surf the web and mess around with pictures and video of Sophie.  I don't see the point in separate accounts.
Title: Re: IE Background image problem
Post by: Mike on August 29, 2008, 10:19:04 AM
Please, in XP all the user accounts share the same root directory.  So the difference in backing up is just changing to a directly level higher.

While it might not be needed if all they are doing is messing around on the internet it is worth while if they are doing any things like email (non web-based) and/or creating documents.

I've never found window user accounts to be a hassle.  It isn't like you have to deal with a butt load of user permission settings.
Title: Re: IE Background image problem
Post by: Steve on August 29, 2008, 11:49:51 AM
Yep. and the best way to backup is images and in that case it doesnt matter.
Title: Re: IE Background image problem
Post by: charlie on August 29, 2008, 01:27:47 PM
We tried user accounts, but people were too lazy to switch to their own so they ended up using mine. This annoys me, but oh well.

My wife has her own computer now and the visiting family tends to use hers (and I tend to use my work laptop) so its not so much of a problem.
Title: Re: IE Background image problem
Post by: Steve on August 29, 2008, 03:03:09 PM
they wont use urs if u pw it lol