Topic: U.S. Election Thread 2016

[Jake]

 

Good news for me is that the pot law seems to be passing in CA.  So at least I won't have to face the next 4 years sober.

[charlie]

My son said that Trump would win. He said he is the one that looks most like a president

He's just a kid and kids say the darnedest things and all, but that's actually pretty sad. Hope you at least put the thought in his head that maybe that's not a good thing to think.

[charlie]

Good news for me is that the pot law seems to be passing in CA.  So at least I won't have to face the next 4 years sober.

Was thinking the same thing.

[Jake]

My son said that Trump would win. He said he is the one that looks most like a president

He's just a kid and kids say the darnedest things and all, but that's actually pretty sad. Hope you at least put the thought in his head that maybe that's not a good thing to think.

Nope, I told him only pussy grabbing men can be president!!!! come on, Charlie!!!

[charlie]

Dude, even reasonable people think things like "he just looks more like a president".

I'm not saying it's the reason Trump won but it kind of hits close to home in this particular election.

[Mike]

BTW I saw this the other day and found it interesting:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9HA1i6NqZJ4

[Jake]

And there we have it!

[VBprogrammer]

WHAT DID YOU GUYS JUST DO!

[Mike]

Don't blame me, I voted for Kodos!

[ober]

I didn't think it was possible so I didn't prepare myself.  I'm pretty down right now.

[charlie]

The crazy thing is that Clinton will probably win the popular vote, and only lost by a point or two in the states she needed to win the electoral college like Pennsylvania and Wisconsin. But her lead was 3-4 points higher a week or two ago and after every major event of the campaign. If there had been a debate last week instead of three weeks ago, she would have won. If the Trump tapes had come out a week ago instead of several weeks ago, she would have won. If the FBI hadn't mentioned possibly reopening the investigation only to say never mind later, she probably would have won.

[ober]

I do wonder how much that is true and how much it isn't.  I don't know why anyone would have changed their mind based on anything in the final weeks leading up to it.  If those things that happened were enough to sway your vote, you're a shit voter.

[hans]

I doubt that. Same with if Bernie had run.

Before this election even started (years ago) I said it was the Republican's race to lose. I figured they could throw any candidate in the race and win since the general discontent around the current party was so high. While I didn't figure they'd actually just throw "any" candidate at the race, it's my opinion that this had much more to do with discontent than with the candidates. As in many of these recent elections I don't think we're actually voting for someone (some people actually are I guess) but rather against the other person. I'm actually sort of surprised Hillary didn't pull this one out based on just how Trump ran his campaign but in a society where we really only get two options and we don't like one of them, the outcome shouldn't really be all that shocking.

Now I'm saying the same thing before Trump even takes the office. This is the Democrat's race to lose next time. I'm not terribly confident that Trump is going to get much done in 4 years or that things will be perceived as any better than now and since it's basically all Republicans in control now if things turn out to still suck, it's likely going to end up the opposite way in four years.

So I have this suggestion, which the Republicans completely ignored last time: Democrats, find a candidate you like right now and prepare them for 2 years from now.

[charlie]

I agree with you there, tgm.

In two years, though, Democrats will have a hard time gaining control of either the House or the Senate. I haven't seen the numbers for this year, but in recent elections there have been more Democratic votes for the House than Republicans, but Republicans have a huge advantage because of the way the district lines are drawn and how concentrated the Democratic vote is. So even when people are fed up with the Republicans in power, it's really hard for Democrats to win the House.

In the Senate, in two years there will be a lot of very Republican areas with Senate elections, and the Democrats who are incumbents won behind Obama's 2012 election. So it will be hard for Democrats to gain then as well. It really seems like that it will be like this (whatever "this" is) for four years.

[hans]

I meant Presidential candidate in 2 years. That gives them one year to really prep before "game time". The House/Senate thing is a whole other thing.