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Entertainment & Artistry => Gaming => Topic started by: ober on September 06, 2011, 10:09:18 AM
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http://www.forgetfoo.com/?blogid=13236
Looks badass. And I haven't heard much about MW3 other than this, but I've been less than impressed with the BF3 stuff I've heard. Thoughts?
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I have to actually play it before I could compare.
What do you think of Origin getting rights to what is going on in your PC?
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Not a fan of that. But if it's the difference between playing a game I really want to play, I could give a shit less.
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Wow...
Anyway.
Good article for this thread.
http://arstechnica.com/gaming/news/2011/08/what-battlefield-3-needs-to-steal-from-modern-warfare-3-and-vice-versa.ars
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Interesting. I guess my gut says to get BF3 first, but I'll eventually own both.
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Modern Warfare 3 seems to be stuck showing the same types of things we've seen in past big-budget war games, and it leads to fatigue. The Battlefield 3 trailers look like they're hyping a game that pushes the genre forward. Modern Warfare 3 could use some of that magic
Probably because it is exactly the same game, but dressed up a bit. Maybe that's also true for BF though.
I could hardly care less about the things that article mentions. What I really want is a decent ranking system, like matchmaking was in Halo 2 and 3. The MW games annoyed me because all the rewards are based on how many hours you log in the game and winning the match doesn't really matter.
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I didn't really play the MW2 online game, but the BF games are based on points rather than time for ranking. So the better you score, the better you rank, and with BFBC2 winning = points (although it's nothing compared to the tactical points) so there is incentive to win.
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> So the better you score, the better you rank, and with BFBC2 winning = points
This is exactly the same thing as in blops
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Don't get me wrong, I like me some vehicles. I get most of my kill streaks in vehicles... but more and more I like the hand to hand combat.
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"no incentive" may have been a bit of an overstatement. The point is more that people who have tons of losses compared to wins can still look like good players because they play 10 hours a day and have "prestiged" 10 times. It's also less conducive to teamwork if you get points based on how many kills/assists/etc you have rather than simply on winning the match.
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Well, you have to be careful about that too. I've been on a LOT of shitty teams and even though I'm the best player on the map, the 10 other pricks on my team are off dicking around so my team ends up losing. I guess my point is, strictly saying wins in a match = rank isn't enough to motivate some people because people are trying out new weapons, going for a specific badge, etc. Hell, I'm currently in the process of getting bronze medals on all weapons, which means I'm playing with weapons that aren't as effective (I fucking hate shotguns).
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I'm not sure how I feel about the ranking up in MW...
the thing is, i tend to suck. but I like playing. So when most people on my team are geting 10 to 30 kills per game, I'm getting 3 to 5. Over time by playing for long periods, unlocking low-skill challenges, and being placed on winning teams, I've ranked up pretty far. The problem with that is that I always get matched to play against people with similar rank as myself but they are way better than me. So i just get killed every time I re-spawn. I think the match-making should be based on your average kill:death ratio or something similar and not based on rank.
just my 2 cents.
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Where are you getting matched up?
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Where are you getting matched up?
oh, i play xbox live. so maybe thats my problem?
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I didn't think there was any matchmaking involved in MW, or have I just been totally oblivious? If there is matchmaking, it didn't seem to work too well. I never had that problem in Halo 2 or 3 where rank was based purely on wins and losses, and I played 4v4 most of the time with random teammates. I guess matchmaking might be more of an issue with bigger teams.
If ranks aren't based purely on wins/losses, then kill/death spread is probably the best measure, except in objective game types and then I have no idea.
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micah, that might be the difference. I only play PC and there is no matching like that. You just jump into a match. If there are 50's in there, you get fucked. If not, I can usually rape all day.
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http://www.logicbuy.com/deals/battlefield-3-xbox-360/32752.aspx
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I think I'll wait. I want to see the initial reaction after a few weeks of people really playing it. Plus you know the first few weeks are going to be shit with people getting activated and server issues. These things never go smoothly.
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So I picked up MW3 on Tuesday.
So far I've played through Act I of the campaign and put in about 3 hours on multiplayer.
If you're looking for innovative new features, don't get your hopes up. Its basically new maps, similar weapons, and a couple new perks in multiplayer as well as new ways to achieve in-game perks like air drops and counter-UAVs. The campaign is just a continuation of the same story line (something with russians and 3rd-world people, blah blah blah) and some new cinematic cut scenes. Game play is the same as every other MW title.
Don't get me wrong, its still awesome. Just not any awesome-er than, say, MW2.
Anyone else got play yet?
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I'm not in a rush to spend $60 on a map pack...again
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I'm not in a rush to spend $60 on a map pack...again
Same. I might get MW in a few months when the price comes way down, but until then BF is a lot more appealing to me.
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Micah, can you play the missions co-op yet?
Last year they said you would be able to, and then removed it from the game with Black Ops. They instead used careful wording to make it seem like co-op was more then the Zombies. I ordered four months in advance and stood in line 4 hours at midnight in MI snow to get it, only to be let down.
So with this one, I haven't even followed along. If I can't play co-op missions, I have no use for it.
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What I mean by missions is campaign. Like single player, but with two people.
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yeah, no, you cant. I really wish you could. My friend and I had a lot of fun playing through the Halo games together and it would nice if do the same in CoD. Like MW2 there are "special missions" you can play split screen but its not the same.
http://www.co-optimus.com/article/7213/your-call-of-duty-modern-warfare-3-co-op-reminder.html
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Then I have no use for it. Ashley and i were so excited to play the campaign together on BO and thats why she got it for my bday, and why we stood in line. It was such a major let down.
MW2 is still the best one.
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Booya. Just bought BF3 on Origin for $31 with tax and free shipping. So now even if it sucks, I won't hate what I paid! Granted, it's an xmas gift so I won't actually play it for another month.... :cry: :cry: :cry:
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Your PC play it?
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Yeah, I meet the min specs and then some.
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Good price!
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I actually just checked the min specs. The only thing I'm weak on is the processor. Minimum is a Intel Core 2 Duo 2.4 GHz. I'm running an Intel Core 2 Duo 2.66 GHz.
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You could tweak some if the processing becomes an issue. Overclocking is an option also.
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wow, I wonder why BF3 is getting such poor reviews on Amazon.
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I saw those. It's such bullshit. 90% of the bad reviews are from the beta or because they're fanboys for COD. I watched a bunch of youtube videos on 'why BF3 sucks' and it's such stupid shit. Things like 'there is no where to hide' when you're walking down a subway. Or bitching about the HUD, which is totally reasonable and less intrusive than some other games.
Yet a lot of people on those videos very clearly said 'this is a great game'. They just had their minor gripes which I totally didn't care about or they were just stupid. I really can't wait to get it.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FOaGhE_sejI&feature=player_embedded
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ahahha holy shit
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And... I'm spent.
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.... installing BF3.......
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Soo, I did end up getting MW since my friends who I play on LIVE with all the time got it. And to be fair the single player was a lot of fun--pretty much on par with the last one.
Meanwhile BF has been collecting dust. I just don't enjoy the online as much as MW. Haven't finished the single player, but I feel like it hasn't lived up to the hype so far. It caught my interest at the beginning, but the last couple missions have been frustrating and boring. It goes from an easy mission where all you do is shoot things from a jet, to a level on the ground where you get killed 20 times in a row at the same spot and the only way to get through it is to spray bullets while running to cover. At least in MW when you die you know which enemy to shoot at the next time, but in BF you can shoot a guy in the same spot 100 times and there's always another one who pops up!
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So.... got it installed. Then... fail. First of all, I won't lie, launching from a browser seems like the dumbest idea EVER. I get that it's probably easier from their end to manage updates to the interface and gives them an easier method to sell their shit. But really?
Secondly, I'm now stuck. I installed and there is now a required update. The problem? When I click to update within Origin, I get a 500 error and it says to try again later. So now I can't even play the fucking game until the update works. And after reading on the net, there is no alternate source to get the patch. @#%)(@#RJ)()(@##@#()@##$#@
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OK, the fail might be on my part. I changed my Origin password on the website and didn't change it on the client, which could have been part of the reason. But they still could have told me that. Anyways, I'll let you know how it goes after this 4GB patch installs. :shock:
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I got BF3 from the inlaws for xmas, sounds like I should start installing now if I want to play before the end of the week
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I got BF3 from the inlaws for xmas, sounds like I should start installing now if I want to play before the end of the week
Yea no shit. 4GB is insane.
OK, the fail might be on my part. I changed my Origin password on the website and didn't change it on the client, which could have been part of the reason. But they still could have told me that. Anyways, I'll let you know how it goes after this 4GB patch installs. :shock:
Launch from browser? Like, you have to install the game, be connected to the internet, and go to a specific url to begin the game? That is fucking retarded.
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I got BF3 from the inlaws for xmas, sounds like I should start installing now if I want to play before the end of the week
Yea no shit. 4GB is insane.
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA /tear
Oh that was a good joke.
hehe
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It is! No update should be more than like 3GB who the fuck wants to go through all that.
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You obviously have never played an MMO. First update after install is regularly 4+GB. And the more modern games just do a digital installer so you are looking at 12-16 GB depending on the game.
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You obviously have never played an MMO. First update after install is regularly 4+GB. And the more modern games just do a digital installer so you are looking at 12-16 GB depending on the game.
Admittedly I'm pretty out of the loop. I'm trying to remember my last update (America's Army) ever done, and I forget how much it was. But you might be right, I think it was around the same. In another note AA3 apparently went STEAM......fucking a.
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Yeah Steve. 3 vs. 4 GB is totally arbitrary. Hell, BF2 patches were 2GB plus and that was several years ago.
You launch it from Origin, but that opens your browser, which opens to a webpage that manages launching the game in whatever mode you select (multiplayer, co-op, singleplayer). The whole idea is kinda stupid because you still have to change your settings in the game and whatnot.
Anyways, I got it installed, worked pretty decent through the first few levels of SP. My initial review:
1) Buggy. I'm only through the first ... 4? missions and already ran into two pretty large bugs. For the one, I had to replay from a savepoint probably 6 times to get it to work properly. For the other one, I ran into it just before I quit on Tuesday so replaying that mission might fix that one. Either way, that's shitty.
2) The graphics are fucking awesome. Best I've seen in a game so far. And that's saying a lot considering my machine is 3 years old and barely above the min CPU requirements. I left the video on auto and it put most stuff on High and I see no lag or any other video issues at that level.
3) The jet mission was fucking sweet and I was only the gunner, not the pilot. The rest of the gameplay is pretty good.
4) More buggy... I had issues getting the game to go truly fullscreen. It was in windowed mode for a while and then flipping over to the browser for a second and then back seemed to fix it, but not every time.
5) I feel like there is a lack of understanding what to do in some instances. Like the very first mission, you are on a subway and you have to jump out and then back into the next car. What they don't make clear at ALL is that you have to repeatedly press the space bar, otherwise you just fall the fuck off and die. I had to google that one to figure out how to get past it. There was another part of a mission where you're supposed to jump in a hummer and man the 50 cal and I had no idea I was supposed to do that, so I'm sitting there shooting motherfuckers left and right FOREVER until I figured that out.
As far as Origin itself, it is also buggy. When applying the patch, it did it, but apparently got 'stuck' in update mode and I thought it was still installing the patch for a good 8 hours... I woke up the next morning (~14 hours after it started) and it said it was still updating. So I killed it and restarted it and it magically said it was done after about 10 seconds. Fuckin bullshit.
SO in a nutshell, despite the bugs and annoyances, I will continue to play it because it looks sweet and I enjoy the gameplay.
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Yea I don't know why i'm bitching.
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Finished the SP. Not bad, not great. Pissed me off that the 'fight', of which I just hit a couple buttons to end the SP was between me and a guy that I couldn't see. Another fucking bug. It's insane that shit like that could happen... that the major players in the game are fucking invisible. And I even have the latest video drivers. So wtf?
I also played about an hour in MP. Decent. Ranked up once in about 20 min. Some of the maps are fucking HUGE. Now I have to go through the pain of learning them all. Time to do some online research.
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I honestly don't think the quality control is what it used to be. In many games these days (Black Ops for example) there are clear bugs that affect almost all users at the same time and somehow they did not get caught before release.
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Well I've played for about 2 hours now.. rank 3. So far I'm digging the MP. I like the maps and the layouts that I've played and I think the weapons are pretty cool. The sounds for the weapons/vehicles are the best out of all war games I've played. I need to change some bindings for some keys but otherwise the controls are good.
Call me crazy, but I kinda like the browser based launch setup. It's a familiar interface so you don't have to learn a new set of screens and filters. The other cool thing about it is that it handles launching, logging in, and setting up the game in the background while you do other things. You can browse the web, check your stats, etc. With other games, you're stuck staring at a loading screen. So while it may seem clumsy at first, I think in general it's a good thing. I never thought I'd say that.
I can't wait to rank up and get more of my unlocks.
OH, and I want to check out the co-op thing too. Not sure how that even works.
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OH, and another huge thing with BF3 that the previous games didn't have... the stats and social aspect. Stats are immediately updated and right there in the interface with everything else. I know BC2 had it in the game but it was shitty. These stats are actually useful and pretty detailed. I might still check other sites to see if anyone does a better job with the stats but it's nice to stop for the night and see very nice stats immediately. I can also log into that site from wherever to see everything.
The social side is pretty cool too. Clans or 'Platoons' can be searched for and managed in the game, which is pretty cool. I'll see how that works out. I found a few Cleveland platoons and I've applied to them.
It claims I can play the game from wherever too but I haven't tried to do that yet.
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Yes, I'm going to use this thread as my ongoing update for the game until someone tells me to STFU or I don't have anything else useful to say.
By the way, if anyone wants to co-op or join/start a platoon, let me know.
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thanks for the reviews.
I'm thinking I want this game now too... does anyone have it for console gaming? If I get it, it'd be for 360.
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Yeah, I have it for 360.
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So I'm about 4 hours in online. A few things they've done right for once:
1) You can't go from prone to standing or kneeling or vice versa in an instant. This is good and bad but overall good in terms of evening out gameplay.
2) You have to approve getting revived (THANK GOD). So the medics can't just bring you back in the middle of a firefight without you approving it. That was soooo annoying in other versions of the game.
3) The assault class is also the medic class. I think that's brilliant. The other classes are support (ammo and suppression), engineer (rockets and fixing shit), and recon (spotting, sniper, setting up mobile spawn points).
4) I was looking through the unlocks and when you get up to level 30+ you run into unlocks that affect your entire squad (like sprinting, better suppression, or lowered damage). VERY COOL.
Things I don't like so far:
1) Maybe it's just because I don't have a really good rocket launcher or don't have an explosive specialty like in BC2, but most of the time I can put 4 rockets into a tank and it only 'disables' it. That seems to be the case for most vehicles. You disable them before destroying them. I still haven't figured out what that means... like they can't shoot but they can still repair?
2) I'm a level 6 right now and I still don't have any scoped weapons. Granted, I've been using most of the classes pretty evenly so I guess that's to be expected, it's just annoying to wait for all these unlocks.
3) They still don't have the VOIP down like they did in BF2. Either that or NO ONE is using it. I thought that was one of the most powerful features of BF2.
I think overall I'm going to really enjoy this game. It's just going to be painful until I learn the maps and get some better weapons.
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For anyone pondering PC vs. console: http://battlefield3tips.net/battlefield-3-pc-vs-x-box-vs-ps3/
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I wonder if the clan management is borrowed from the way America's Army did it.
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You really need to get past that game. That was like 7 years ago and that game sucked.
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All the shooting is clearly taken from Oregon Trail
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That game did not suck. And it was the first game to offer (to the best of my recollection) clan management in game.
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The weapons sucked, the gameplay wasn't very good, there wasn't enough people playing online, and it was a FPS that I didn't stick with. Therefore, it sucked.
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The weapons sucked, the gameplay wasn't very good, there wasn't enough people playing online, and it was a FPS that I didn't stick with. Therefore, it sucked.
I'll ignore the opinion points, but how was there not enough online players?? There were thousands at any give time. Hell I remember before our dedicated server when we would have long waiting lines to get on servers even though there was pages of lists of them.
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I don't know... maybe I started playing after it had been out for a while. I never found many servers and the game always crashed on me when I did find one.
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Yea maybe. I started with the BETA and stuck with it until version 2.something when I just ran out of time and give a shit. I think my account had something like 2500 hours of total playing time, not counting all the ladder clan matches we had. To think I spent over 100 days playing a damn game.
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To think I spent over 100 days playing a damn game.
My first EverQuest character had over 100 days played before it hit (at the time) the max level. I then leveled another character plus played the original one more. Of course I played that game for over 5 years.
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I don't even want to think about how many hours of life was wasted on Ultima Online. I played that for about the same amount of time, all weekend and after school every single f'n day.
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BF3 update - I'm starting to get pissed. Seems like every server has very experienced players in it so I'm constantly getting my ass handed to me. My K/D was over 1 briefly but after tonight I'm probably going to be around .8 or less. FUCK. I'm starting to see instances where my machine is lagging slightly which leads to my inability to recover/see straight. They introduced 'blur' into the game which I think is Frostbite 2's way of easing up on the load of the machine. They don't draw nearly as much detail when you pan quickly.
This game has been out for only... 2 months? Yet there are hundreds/thousands of players with really high ranks already. People must fucking live in this game.
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Yea dude, people are obsessed. Best bet is to get better :p
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this is my ongoing problem with every game I've tried on xbox live. Its no fun when you get spawn killed constantly but I like the idea of multiplayer. I wish there was a better way :(
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I'll be honest though... last night was probably my worst and the other nights I've played weren't all that bad. It's certainly not going to stop me from playing... just makes me want to rank up and get my unlocks faster. It probably means I'll stick with one class for a little longer instead of trying to rank up all of them at once.
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OK, a few quick things on BF3:
1) They fucked up the squad stuff. In BC2, it was kind of hard to NOT be on a squad. It even gave you the option to have it join you into a squad on the loading screen which I almost always used. But now I would say 50% of the average team is NOT in a squad which is SO annoying.
2) I really like the weapons and the vehicles. All very cool. The points system is also impressive and more flexible than most others I've seen. Like you get partial kill assists, partial suppression kills, etc.
3) Suppression fire is pretty big in this game, it's like a new way of keeping the enemy in check.
4) I still haven't figured out the lack of or ability to destroy stuff. Like there are things I thought could be destroyed and it seems they can only be partially destroyed. And then other things seem to take a lot of rockets to really take out. In BC2, you could wipe stuff out pretty quickly. But I guess the range of stuff you can take out is bigger in this game.
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I'm actually debating on getting this game. I have beaten Block Ops, GOW2, LFD2, and all my other ones I never got around too before. May have to sell them off and get BF3.
Now if only I could find my damn wireless thingy for the xbox :(
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Game runs like dogshit on my computer and the browser having to be open is the dumbest design decision ever (I think these go hand in hand)
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What are your PC specs?
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I'm not sure off the top of my head, but I can run any other game ive tried with no problems. Its a few years old but I don't see a need to upgrade yet
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Well, in that case, try an OS re install. Could be all it needs.
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define dogshit and toss us some specs
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One thing I've found is that the game might feel like it is playing like dogshit until you rank up a little. Cover fire is HUGE in this game and it can make you feel like you are playing in slow motion at first.
I thought it was my machine at first too but it has improved since ranking up and getting some unlocks that make that effect not as noticeable.
But post your specs. I'm only low in one area on my machine and it does still dog here and there. It is a beast of a game.
And read my reasoning earlier in the thread on why I think the browser thing is actually a brilliant idea. I appreciate it much more than I used to. And if your computer doesn't have enough juice to run a browser and a game then you have issues.
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(http://i.imgur.com/yw8CL.png)
There you all go. Like I said, it's a couple years old but I can run other current gen titles just fine. With BF3 I have everything turned down to low and it's actually ok sometimes but when some audio kicks in I get a ton of lag (when a character is talking or I'm firing a gun)
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Why aren't you running 64 bit?
Guessing the audio is bare minimum on board, so look for updated drivers. Also look into updated firmware for your motherboard. Video card isn't bad, but I would look for some of the custom 8800 GT drivers instead of Nvidia's stock drivers.
Make sure DirectX is current.
Check Windows updates.
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Because it came with 32 and I've never had a reason to upgrade
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Seems the hardware would benefit from 64bit but maybe I'm wrong. Windows is not my strong point these days, I don't bother to keep up with it.
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Needs more RAM.
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Gah i didn't type that in. Definitely needs another GB
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Needs more RAM.
I thought I was limited to 2 Gb by 32 bit windows but I see that's not the case, maybe I'll get another 2 gb
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If you can not mandatory) open up the tower and buy the same ram that you have. Unless you only have two slots, in which case I would suggest 2 new 4GB sticks to replace them. Consair.
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Jumping to 4gb would be huge. Your video card is on the lower end for this game too. You have a slightly better proc than me but I double you in almost every other category. I've actually been considering a CPU upgrade to go quad core instead of dual. I have Vista 64 but have also been thinking about 7 64 as well. The big advantage of 64 is more RAM. I have 8 GB and I haven't checked for sure but I think the game uses a lot of that.
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I don't even know if I have the desire to build gaming rigs anymore. I was really good at it, guess just not as into my tweaking mind as I used to be.
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I really don't know how you can say that. How can the cloud produce the same performance as local hardware??
And yeah, my old card was an 8800 GTX. There's no way I'd expect that to run BF3.
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My neighbor got BF3 for PS3 and I played a little of the single player but not enough to give any solid reviews.
I also borrowed my friend's PS3 and have been putting in some time on Black Ops - multi player only. One thing I have to say - how do you console people play with these joystick thingies - seriously!? what a pain in the ass, I can't aim worth a damn. Nevertheless, I'm slowly improving and gathering points by camping and shit like that. Most of the time I'm getting spanked though....does anyone play this still?
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I never played Black Ops. And I know some people, like a guy I work with, that swear by the console control. I just don't get it either. There is no way you can have as much accuracy with those sticks.
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System is probably in need of a reinstall, 2GB of memory (4 minus video memory is 32 bit max), and a decent video card (560Ti).
CPU is aging but not so bad.
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>>There is no way you can have as much accuracy with those sticks.
I always watch the guys that kill me, and some are super accurate - like me with a mouse! :)
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You adjust to it. When i got into MW2 i said the same things, but as you play and adjust the settings it becomes superior. I slaughter people in Black Ops now, when i started MW2 i would spin in circles tryo g to shoot a guy in front of me.
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You adjust to it. When i got into MW2 i said the same things, but as you play and adjust the settings it becomes superior. I slaughter people in Black Ops now, when i started MW2 i would spin in circles tryo g to shoot a guy in front of me.
Superior? Disagree. Joystick control is just different, and frankly if someone were to use a mouse while I was playing with an xbox controller I would get destroyed. It's easier to aim with a mouse, but I prefer to use a joystick for shooters.
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I'd wager to say I probably have more hours into FPS's (PC) then anyone here with the exception of maybe Ethic or possibly Mike, and I love my mouse but I feel the joystick is more natural. That may just be a personal thing, but when I started with xbox I really thought the joystick was retarded, but now I go back to a mouse and it makes me mental.
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I'd wager to say I probably have more hours into FPS's (PC) then anyone here with the exception of maybe Ethic or possibly Mike, and I love my mouse but I feel the joystick is more natural. That may just be a personal thing, but when I started with xbox I really thought the joystick was retarded, but now I go back to a mouse and it makes me mental.
Nah, I'm a real gamer, not a FPS gamer.
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I honestly couldn't remember.
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I'd wager to say I probably have more hours into FPS's (PC) then anyone here with the exception of maybe Ethic or possibly Mike, and I love my mouse but I feel the joystick is more natural. That may just be a personal thing, but when I started with xbox I really thought the joystick was retarded, but now I go back to a mouse and it makes me mental.
I bet Knuck has more than you. Easily.
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I'd wager to say I probably have more hours into FPS's (PC) then anyone here with the exception of maybe Ethic or possibly Mike, and I love my mouse but I feel the joystick is more natural. That may just be a personal thing, but when I started with xbox I really thought the joystick was retarded, but now I go back to a mouse and it makes me mental.
I bet Knuck has more than you. Easily.
You talking skill or hours played?
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If we are talking playing hours, I REALLY doubt it. I played HL1 every day after school for 3 years (maybe more) at about 6 hours a day and every hour on weekends I could keep my eyes open. Like I said before my AA account had around 2500 hours of playing time. I can't count Unreal, Quake, and Doom because I honestly do not remember.
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I'd wager to say I probably have more hours into FPS's (PC) then anyone here with the exception of maybe Ethic or possibly Mike, and I love my mouse but I feel the joystick is more natural. That may just be a personal thing, but when I started with xbox I really thought the joystick was retarded, but now I go back to a mouse and it makes me mental.
I bet Knuck has more than you. Easily.
You talking skill or hours played?
Hours. I have no idea on skill.
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Skill I would bet on him anyday, I suck haha. I'd say lets get on xbox live but I can't find my damn wireless dongle.
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Neither Knuck or I own an Xbox 360. We're both PC gamers.
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I hate fighting with games to run on Linux, so I stopped playing them on PC for the most part.
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I hate fighting with games to run on Linux
Well there's your problem
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Yea, shitty developers and companies not making cross platform games.
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Yea, shitty developers and companies not making cross platform games.
Linux is not meant to be a gaming platform.
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Linux is meant to be a complete replacement for windows, and runs many games very very well. Some it runs better than Windows.
Step out of 1995, Linux is the future.
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Linux is meant to be a complete replacement for windows, and runs many games very very well. Some it runs better than Windows.
Step out of 1995, Linux is the future.
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
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Linux is meant to be a complete replacement for windows, and runs many games very very well. Some it runs better than Windows.
Step out of 1995, Linux is the future.
Not the foreseeable future.
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The problem is that there aren't enough Linux users to warrant the development time.
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They develop for Mac and they are barely 4% apart.
http://www.w3schools.com/browsers/browsers_os.asp
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> Step out of 1995, Linux is the future.
*gives you a wedgie*
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Step out of 1995, Linux is the future.
Step out of 2000. No, it's not.
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Aren't there dozens (or more) of versions of Linux? Wouldn't this make developing games or whatever for them really difficult?
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There are thousands of linux distributions, but they all use the same kernel and the vast majority use the X windowing system. So you wouldn't need to target each distro separately for development.
That said, if you want to play games.. use windows. Linux is for us geeks that like to hack things and have control over everything. If I got back into PC gaming I'd probably run a dual boot machine to run games natively from windows.
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They develop for Mac and they are barely 4% apart.
http://www.w3schools.com/browsers/browsers_os.asp
Using w3 schools as a fact source is a fail.
Aren't there dozens (or more) of versions of Linux? Wouldn't this make developing games or whatever for them really difficult?
Yes & no. Most use the same kernel and OpenGL. So really it isn't that difficult. Really what it comes down to is tool kits, APIs, and market. MS has them, MacOS kinda does, linux doesn't.
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I can go back to Windows, but I get sick of stopping/closing everything I'm doing just to boot into another OS.
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I use the occasional distro at work, but only when absolutely necessary.
For the average power user Windows is the only practical solution IMO.
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It's not that cut and dry anymore, lots of people (young, elderly, you name it) are finding mainstream distro's like Ubuntu to be very intuitive, fast, and simple. And in the days of panic and security paranoia we are in, Linux wins out there also.
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It's not that cut and dry anymore, lots of people (young, elderly, you name it) are finding mainstream distro's like Ubuntu to be very intuitive, fast, and simple.
lol no
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There are thousands of linux distributions, but they all use the same kernel and the vast majority use the X windowing system. So you wouldn't need to target each distro separately for development.
That said, if you want to play games.. use windows. Linux is for us geeks that like to hack things and have control over everything. If I got back into PC gaming I'd probably run a dual boot machine to run games natively from windows.
Starcraft 2 is the only reason I'm running windows at home.
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Video games are pretty much 90% of the reasons I've stuck with windows. And since PC gaming is so much better than console gaming I guess I'll be using windows for the foreseeable future.
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It makes no sense to be a console or PC purist when so many good games are specific one platform or the other.
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It makes no sense to be a console or PC purist when so many good games are specific one platform or the other.
True there are. But, I'm not going to go buy a computer, xbox, ps3, wii, and (feels like I'm missing one). The vast majority of the games that I like are available on the PC. And as a platform I like a PC more than console.
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It makes no sense to be a console or PC purist when so many good games are specific one platform or the other.
True there are. But, I'm not going to go buy a computer, xbox, ps3, wii, and (feels like I'm missing one). The vast majority of the games that I like are available on the PC. And as a platform I like a PC more than console.
Furthermore the console controllers are horrible in comparison to keyboard and mouse. In my limited exposure to X-Box and PS3 I just found them physically unwieldy and painfully uncomfortable.
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Furthermore the console controllers are horrible in comparison to keyboard and mouse. In my limited exposure to X-Box and PS3 I just found them physically unwieldy and painfully uncomfortable.
You must be some kind of mutant. The Xbox 360 has the most comfortable controller ever created.
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I have one for my PC that I use for sports games. I agree that it is comfortable to hold and works well for those types of games. HOWEVER, there is no way in hell I would ever want to use it for FPS. I had a hard enough time getting used to the console controller to play Halo back in the day. And while I played a lot, I was never very accurate with that type of control.
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If I have 1 major bitch about BF3 MP it is that 70% of the time the 'next map' DOES NOT FUCKING LOAD. So you end up jumping from server to server to server. GODDAMN it's annoying.
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that's a pretty major bug
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Other things I like about this game if I haven't already mentioned it:
1) By far the most realistic shooter I've played, from changing positions to the feel of the guns to the feel of the actual player (vision changes, ability to react to suppressive fire, etc.). It seems so realistic.
2) The sheer number of weapons, weapon options, and vehicles. There were like ~45 weapons in BC2. There are 75 in BF3 and not only that, there are so many attachments and shit for each weapon. Most weapons have 12-15 unlocks or more and you can change the attachments on the gun during spawn. That means I can equip a long range vs. a short range scope, add or remove a bipod, add larger clips, add flashlights, change the barrel, add under carriages for addons like grenade launchers... the options are endless. And the same is true for vehicles. Each vehicle has tons of unlocks like added armor, radar, better shells, etc.
3) Stats are immediate. I love that I come out of a round and not only are my global stats immediately updated, but you also get a report on the round you just played. I think EA must have restructured the stats end of things because you don't end up in long queues on external stat sites anymore either. They update within 30 seconds or less.
4) They finally got rid of the 'you can only run for 10 seconds' bullshit. I haven't fully tested it, but I think you can run for about as long as you want in this game. Your guy gets winded and sounds like he needs a break but you don't get that 'hard stop' where you have to walk or take a break to be able to keep running. This is important because some of the maps are huge and the points are NOT close together at all and if you get stranded without a vehicle, you're fucked.
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wife got me mw3 for vday :D I doubt I will be playing any SP, MP all the way...installing now :) reviews to come later
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wife got me mw3 for vday :D I doubt I will be playing any SP, MP all the way...installing now :) reviews to come later
kinda funny, mine did too.
Not impressed, as disappointed as Black Ops. Well not AS disappointed because I didn't get into the hype this time. It doesn't live up to the MW name at all. They need to bring back the original company that developed CoD.
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Sucks to be you guys. BF3 rules. :)
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I got Skryim too so been toying with that.
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Sick of Skyrim, starting to play MW3 again. I do miss world at war (I think it was that one?) where you could drive tanks and get attack dogs
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my vid card sucks. But that's OK though. Played one game yesterday and boy am I much better with keyboard and mouse. Positive KD ratio at first try.
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my vid card sucks. But that's OK though. Played one game yesterday and boy am I much better with keyboard and mouse. Positive KD ratio at first try.
I think this was just beginner luck. I got crushed in the few games I played last night. But that might be because I had a 17 hour work day :dunno: lets hope so!
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My evenings vary. I can crush some motherfuckers one night all night if I get on the right servers. But then I'll have other nights were it's just 'spawn die spawn die spawn die'. It depends on the servers and the level of talent in them. Having people that play as a team helps TREMENDOUSLY too.
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So I have a bitch and a 'hoorah'.
I think, can't tell for sure, that they pushed out a small patch about 2 weeks ago. It just happened that I didn't play the game for about a week or so and then when I came back into it, I also bought the 'Back to Karkand' expansion pack. Long story short, I got in some sort of shitty loop with Origin and had to uninstall and reinstall the game. No big deal. I didn't lose anything, but it was a lot of wasted time and research trying to figure out why I couldn't get it to work.
The Back to Karkand stuff is AWESOME though! Wake Island, Sharqui Peninsula, Gulf of Oman, and obviously Karkand. All the maps are updated and they look pretty sweet. Plus I finally got to drive the Bobcat. Yes, you read that right, one of the vehicles you can drive is a Bobcat. :)
The only downside to those maps is that they're very vehicle heavy... so I spend a lot of time playing as an Engineer. It can be fun but if you're losing you might as well bail because the enemy has SO many vehicles that they can just wipe you off the map.
I also find myself liking infantry only maps or maps that only have a few vehicles. I think most of the newer maps in BF3 are geared more towards infantry... at least the ones I play. I also hate playing with more than like 16 people in a map. Shit gets too insane and it's hard to be alive for more than a few minutes. I seem to do best with about 12-16 people, regardless of rank. Also, I think your machine needs to be more beefy when there are that many people in the map. It's like everything slows down for me in those situations... it gets a little less responsive. Maybe it was just the server I was on yesterday... but I'm not sure.
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I also find myself liking infantry only maps or maps that only have a few vehicles.
What the F***?
FYI folks Obes died and somebody else is writing his posts. Probably Sam. Or the girl.
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haven't been able to put a whole bunch of time into it, but so far so good. Maps are interesting and well made. Competition is outstanding. Weapon choices are great too. I think I still like Black Ops a bit better, but I think I just got used to the way it felt. I've been getting owned pretty bad until I pretty much lowered my graphics to less than average. There was way too much lag on my computer's part and I would die before I can get my sights up. Now it is much better.
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I thought I wouldn't get used to BF3 as opposed to Bad Company 2 but I don't think I'd want to go back now. Far too many advances and cooler shit in the newer games. I might actually uninstall BC2 now.
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Cheez, have you played at all? I haven't seen you signed in.
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Nope, probably won't play until I get a chance to upgrade my PC but that's not even on my radar right now with recent events
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Very true. I guess I meant before the kid showed up.
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Ober, any hackers in BF?
Almost every night that I play there is at least one. And they make it so obvious that its not even funny. Is there a way to report players for hacking? does steam do anything about it?
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Honestly, I haven't seen any hacking and if they are it isn't obvious. You still get the guys that are like 24-3 in K/D in a round but it's actually skilled players. I just joined a clan and all of those guys say the hackers are in abundance in MW3. Plus they also say BF3 is a WAY better game.
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You're saying the people in your bf clan say its much better than mw, huh.
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The people in my clan play a lot of different games. It's not just a BF clan.
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Ober, any hackers in BF?
Almost every night that I play there is at least one. And they make it so obvious that its not even funny. Is there a way to report players for hacking? does steam do anything about it?
Steam...? Do you mean for MW?
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Ober, any hackers in BF?
Almost every night that I play there is at least one. And they make it so obvious that its not even funny. Is there a way to report players for hacking? does steam do anything about it?
Steam...? Do you mean for MW?
yes.
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had a great run last night and actually met an old clan mate from years ago! (the clan is still around and I was wearing the tags - so was he) joined up with his party and holy shit can those guys play. This one fucking guy racked up over 70 kills with a shotgun!! and had less than 10 deaths. Amazing.
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I assume you're still playing MW?
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yup
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and you def get better stats when playing with a team rather than beeing a lone wolf.
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I think it varies. I can often go into a server and join a squad in BF3 and do just as good or better than I can playing with my clan. The guys in my clan have a different playing style than I like and so I don't often score very well with them. Plus I hate the maps they play on.
But to your point in general, playing with others (spawning, assisting, working together) is by far better.
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Man, so I've been playing with these dudes almost evry time I'm on, and holy shit, total domination. Definately improving my stats too :) One guy got two moabs in a single game :!:
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photos like that make me want to go West...
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What is a Moab?
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a nuke
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in order to get it you have to get like 20+ kills without dying.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qvM6uTTkGJw
it was actually on this sam map
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guy is pretty annoying so just forward to 7:10. Too bad you don't see the after Nuke effect. Map becomes really quiet and has an orange hue.
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Wow... so glad I did BF3. The graphics in that are awful in comparison.
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he does PS3
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Either way... the PS3 should at least be comparable to my machine.
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Wow... so glad I did BF3. The graphics in that are awful in comparison.
I have both, and it's comparable. They are just so vastly different in design. For example imo BF# seems more graphical because of the color choices in a lot of things. MW3 is more drab.
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If you have both, which do you prefer to play and why?
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BF3. MW3 is just like all the others and really contributes nothing new other than survival, which is basically zombies replaced with enemy troops.
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I keep hearing that over and over. So glad I went with BF3.
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I'll give a quick review (MW3):
Maps:
The same shit as Black Ops. All they did was take elements of different maps and jumble them around to create a new layout, give it a new name and add a few new sounds, buildings, and enviorment. By enviourment I mean things like newspaper blowing by, trees moving, etc. I have literally been able to say wow this map is like that other one with a new name, swap to Black Ops, and find the exact same building in a slightly different place on that map.
Campaign:
Is STILL not two player. This is INSANE to me. We have been asking for two player co-op campaigns since the first CoD and have been promised them. Black Ops claimed to have it, even on the case, and then you find out it is with a system link. Not the same thing. They said Mw3 would have it, it doesn't.
Zombies:
This was the one thing that saved Black Ops. People love the friggen zombie levels, and when BO sucked balls people said well at least the zombies are good. They are gone in MW3. In it's place is "Special Ops" which has "Survival" and some other crap I don't recall. In previous versions the zombie were two player, and this is what kept people happy. Special Ops is not.
Gameplay:
Weak. They made head shots easier, which is clear by the fact that I never get them this much in any other version. Running lasts longer than it used to, which is retarded because nobody can run that far wearing all that shit and still move and shoot as quick and well as they could before. The guns have generic type sounds now, where they have traditionally been more realistic and accurate.
Summary:
As of Black Ops the company that produces the CoD series is not the original. They are cheaper replacements allowing a greater profit margin for the label. They are inferior clearly in every way, and they are ruining it. The company that made Black Ops (Trecharch or some shit) is not the compnay that made MW3 (activision, going from memory I skip intro nonsense).
In conclusion if you are a real fan of CoD and love the progression seen from the original to World at War to MW to MW2 (the best ever) then you will despise the series from Black Ops on. However it will continue to suck and sell things because kids will keep buying it. Personally I will never pay for another copy, and probably won't even bother to copy one.
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Ha... ok, my BF3 response to that:
Maps: All new and original (I think they actually base the maps off of real places but I don't know that for sure). Either way, I like the new maps a lot, specifically a few of them. Some of them are a completely different feel than any other BF maps before, especially the city ones. Granted, there is the Back to Karkand expansion pack that takes some of the best maps from BF2, dresses them up and gives you the same thing but better, but it's not like they're hiding what they are.
Campaign: There is the single player version but there is CO-OP which isn't the entire single player game, just several missions and I don't even think it's the same missions as in SP. I don't know if you can hook up with someone specifically because I've never tried but I'm sure you can. The cool thing is that it helps you unlock guns and stuff for MP at the same time. GREAT IDEA!
Zombies: WTF, No.
Gameplay: you can run a lot farther in BF3 than in BF2 or BC2... I'm actually not even sure if there is a limit to how far you can run without needing to walk. I don't know how realistic that is but the limitations in previous versions were just stupid. Run 20 feet and then have to walk for 10 seconds? Fuck that. The patch they just released did increase the time to go from running to scoped and being able to shoot accurately. Before the patch I could pull up from a dead sprint and ice a bitch. Now there is a slight delay and it often means death. I don't know if MW3 takes into effect suppression, but I think it's really well done and I've mentioned it previously in this thread. Suppression fire and its affect on your ability to react and shoot can be pretty huge, especially if the shooter has the suppression specialization. I will agree that it does seem to be easier to get headshots when compared to previous versions. But maybe I'm just better. ;)
Destructability: I think this is the coolest thing about BF3. Everything can be reduced to rubble. And it's not like it's immediate. But I can literally take the entire side off of a building with a tank or rockets over time. And most buildings can be completely reduced to ground level. Even the ground can be destroyed (huge pits from anti tank mines, etc).
I could go on and on about this game. I really do think it blows any other predecessor out of the water categorically. I mean it should just by the nature of being a newer game but I would have expected this level of progression in 2 or 3 major versions, not 1 (assuming the leap from BF2 to BF3 without consideration to BC, BC2, etc).
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Yea I have been pretty impressed with BF3
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having not looked at this thread all weekend I must now share this anecdote: While out with my wife on saturday evening I saw a car with a bumper sticker that said "MOAB" on it and my wife was like what is that? and I said, "I dunno, to me it means the Mother Of All Bombs" but I can't imagine why someone would want that as a round euro-sticker on the back of their Subaru. Then, oddly enough, on my way to work this morning I saw a car with Utah license plates which have a cartoonish rendering of the rock formation Ethic posted and it makes me think thats probably what the sticker represented on the car we saw the other night.
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The same shit as Black Ops. All they did was take elements of different maps and jumble them around to create a new layout, give it a new name and add a few new sounds, buildings, and enviorment. By enviourment I mean things like newspaper blowing by, trees moving, etc. I have literally been able to say wow this map is like that other one with a new name, swap to Black Ops, and find the exact same building in a slightly different place on that map.
I totally disagree. I also played both games, and none of the maps are alike. Please give concrete examples.
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I've played BF3 only a handful of times, but the biggest difference to me is the combat style. Where MW3 is mostly close quarters because the maps are relatively small, BF3 is more realistic with several levels of combat. I could much more easily camp with a sniper in BF3 than in MW3; in MW3 there is really no camping. The close quarters combat in MW3 also makes it for a much faster paced game I think. Ober, in an average 6vs6 game how many kills do you think a team gets in BF3? I think in MW3 it is between 120-150.
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Depends on the type of game and the number of tickets. I mainly play conquest games so it's more than just getting kills. I haven't really played much deathmatch in BF3 (I don't find them nearly as fun). And DM games in BF are typically set to a number of kills... like when a team reaches 100 kills, the game is over.
Here are a couple of my recent matches:
http://battlelog.battlefield.com/bf3/battlereport/show/28533323/1/343899560/
http://battlelog.battlefield.com/bf3/battlereport/show/28534232/1/343899560/
And again, I guess it depends on the type of game you play. Most of the maps I play on and the game style I play don't really lend themselves to camping as much. There are several maps with very close quarters stuff and the next expansion is all about close quarters.
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wow, there is a lot of players in those games! There is a type of game called Ground War in MW3, which I think is 10 v 10 or 12 v 12. And on those small maps it is chaos! 6 on 6 is perfect.
Also, what is your overall K:D ? Mine is still pretty damn poor, I'm almost at .5 :/ but my excuse is that I'm an objective whore
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See for yourself:
http://battlelog.battlefield.com/bf3/soldier/ober0330/stats/343899560/
I've been hovering around 1 in K/D lately. I'm a major objective whore too:
http://bf3stats.com/stats_pc/ober0330
Look about halfway down the page at the 'objective per minute' ranking. I'm in the top 2% of all players for PC.
Most of the maps in BF3 are at least 16 players (8 vs. 8). And most of them are well above it. The highest is 64 (32 vs 32) which can get kind of insane. I usually don't like to play on anything above a 32 slot server. But it probably has more to do with map size. 6 on 6 on some of these maps would mean you might not see other players very much.
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>>6 on 6 on some of these maps would mean you might not see other players very much.
yah, and that is why I think that is the biggest difference between the two games.
Nice stats. My accuracy is about the same as yours. I'm getting there with the K:D ratio ;)
also, you have 2300 kills for 55HR pf play time. I have about twice that for only 30HR of play - again, map size and combat style is the difference here.
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Yeah, I think the games are very different and I'm happy on the BF3 side of things from what I've heard. Chances are if you have about twice that many kills and half of my K/D, in about half the time, you're doing an awful lot of spawn/die too. That doesn't sound fun to me.
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>>you're doing an awful lot of spawn/die too
yup, that happens too
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I'm curious if you'd like BF3. I'd try MW3 but I've heard so much bad about it.
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I'm curious if you'd like BF3. I'd try MW3 but I've heard so much bad about it.
I played a few times on my neighbors PS3 - and I did like it; but that was before I started playing more overall, and I got owned pretty bad - mostly because it was console. I also played battle4free or whatever the free version is called, for a few weeks and did very well on that. On both, the thing I did not like too much is the slow pace of game play. Even in the past when I played FPSes hardcore I enjoyed faster paced games. Either way, if I had more time, I'd probably five BF3 a shot - but as ti is, I can only play a few hours a week, and MW3 fits that slot plretty nciely :p
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Gotcha. And trust me, there are some damn faced paced games in BF3. Just depends on the game type.
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I unlocked a new submachine gun a few levels ago - the MP7, and I have improved significantly. It is great for close quarters because it is really accurate firing from the hip, so the quicker reaction time as opposed to bringing up the sites gives the extra edge. Most games I used it in so far I've had a positive K:D
Also, I'm at level 80 :) ready to go prestige. I don't know what that means, but it is an accomplishment :p
http://youtu.be/9lEtMWtPusA
Ober, if you have time watch the whole thing. Guy talks about map sizes and shit in MW3.
By the way, that map is one of my favs.
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so I went level 1 prestige yesterday. What sucks is that you loose all the weapons you've unlocked; all the challanges reset, as well as the strike/support packages. Basically you start from not. However, if you do not make that move, you can not level up or rank up, once you reach the max. Once you go prestige you get a "prestige token" or something like that. It could be used to buy things like 'gain double XP for 2 hours', etc. I chose to use it to unlock that MP7 SMG, which otherwise I would need to wait till I got to level 77 again to get.
I think I got to level 5 within two maps this time :D
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My...."nephew in law"....was bitching about the prestige crap and leveling up but I forget why. Something about getting too high makes MP suck. I'll have to ask him because he is maxed out on like every CoD but this one and swore he wasn't going to.
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What sucks is that you loose all the weapons you've unlocked
RoD is that you?
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What sucks is that you loose all the weapons you've unlocked
RoD is that you?
:fu:
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I don't get it
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Don't worry RoD, Mike is just a Loooooser.
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Whatever, I'm gonna go kill that dragon.
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I unlocked a new submachine gun a few levels ago - the MP7, and I have improved significantly. It is great for close quarters because it is really accurate firing from the hip, so the quicker reaction time as opposed to bringing up the sites gives the extra edge. Most games I used it in so far I've had a positive K:D
Also, I'm at level 80 :) ready to go prestige. I don't know what that means, but it is an accomplishment :p
http://youtu.be/9lEtMWtPusA
Ober, if you have time watch the whole thing. Guy talks about map sizes and shit in MW3.
By the way, that map is one of my favs.
That video makes me feel like he's playing something from 7 or 8 years ago. The graphics are so... lacking and basic compared to BF3.
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And that whole 'start over' bullshit is stupid. Why would anyone want to go through that???
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yeah, I agree. Maybe I just don't understand the whole prestige thing quite right. I don't know how it worked in Black Ops because I never got close to playing that much (I only had the game on PS3 for a few weeks). The only thing you do not lose is your "titles and emblems"
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can you "return" things purchased from Steam. I purchased extra maps for MW3 over the weekend and they suck - mainly because two have a really high DOF and slow my machine down bad.
Anyway, last week I only played on Saturday night - that whole gym and working out thing is messing with my COD skilss :mad:
;)
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can you "return" things purchased from Steam.
According to their agreement no. I have heard of people complaining loudly enough to have it done.
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You could do yourself a favor and toss the whole thing in the trash and play BF3 instead! I need some target practice ;)
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You could do yourself a favor and toss the whole thing in the trash and play BF3 instead! I need some target practice ;)
maybe in October. My wife and kids are going to Poland for a month!
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Umm... how do I sign up for that deal?
Then again they'd come back and find me fat as hell, totally strung out from too many gaming marathons, and generally a complete mess.
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Like this? (http://media.ebaumsworld.com/picture/xxBrianatorxx/mrmarsh.jpg)
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>>Umm... how do I sign up for that deal?
to tell you the truth I'm not too thrilled. I mean, it will be nice for a week or so, but then I think I will miss them too much - but on the other hand, maybe not ;)
Anyway, I have some projects lined up when they are gone, that should fill up plenty of time. I mainly need to paint the dining room and kitchen ceilings as well as the hallway walls. I also want to refinish the stairs; strip, stain, and protect. All of these are better done when no one is at home.
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I think it will be the first two days you miss them, then for a week not too bad, another week OK but the last 1.5-2 weeks will be rough.
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Man... how can you even play that MW3 POS??
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nYXqXm_LLHg
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In the past two weeks I only played one time...
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I can;t play at all with this useless injured hand/wrist of mine.
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Wow I got in a groove last night. This was an epic fucking game: http://battlelog.battlefield.com/bf3/battlereport/show/33243594/1/343899560/
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i think I'm done with this game. Tried playing it yesterday, and turned it off after one game (and I was doing good too). Today I quit in the middle of my third game. Lost interest I guess. Anyone want to buy it?
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http://www.tomshardware.com/news/Beta-Battlefield-4-Medal-of-Honor-FPS-Warfighter,16318.html
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Saw that... and I'm pretty surprised... they haven't even released all the expansion packs for 3 and they're already doing a beta for 4??
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haven't played since that last post...
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haven't played since that last post...
what are you looking to get for it? A friend of mine has been asking to buy mine. It has been like two weeks, but maybe he is still looking for a copy. I'm assuming we are still talking about MW3.
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it is not for sale.
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How easy is it to sell games like these that are tied to CD Keys you've presumably registered? Because if it's not bad someone can get BF3 from me way cheap
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Saw that... and I'm pretty surprised... they haven't even released all the expansion packs for 3 and they're already doing a beta for 4??
EA...nuff said
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it is not for sale.
Anyone want to buy it?
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How easy is it to sell games like these that are tied to CD Keys you've presumably registered? Because if it's not bad someone can get BF3 from me way cheap
If it uses something like Steam you are pretty much SOL. Unless they allow you to transfer the license to a new account now, it's been a long time since I went near Steam.
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It's basically Origin's version of steam
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it is not for sale.
Anyone want to buy it?
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probably should have had a ;) after that
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http://www.technobuffalo.com/gaming/platform-gaming/battlefield-3s-vehicular-dlc-featured-in-new-trailer/
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http://www.technobuffalo.com/gaming/platform-gaming/battlefield-3s-vehicular-dlc-featured-in-new-trailer/
Umm.. that was bad-ass. I know it wouldn't be up your alley knuck, but that looks fun to me.
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Nah BF3 was a fail for me. :(
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Why? Didn't like the gameplay? Maps? ?
Ya know I hated it at first. But that was mainly due to the suppression effect that goes away (well most of it) once you rank up a little.
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Why? Didn't like the gameplay? Maps? ?
Ya know I hated it at first. But that was mainly due to the suppression effect that goes away (well most of it) once you rank up a little.
I HATED the loss of Commander. I found game play to be messy, difficult to follow visually, and much closer to the CoD feel than the BF2 I loved so very much. I played alpha and beta a good bit. I never played the final pay version. I was just way to heart broken over the alpha and beta. Not a huge fan of the interface and being 100% tied to EA either but those were not game breaking. Disappointing game play killed it for me.
Could just be me, but I doubt it. The members of the clan that purchased it played for a couple weeks and then dropped it. Only Ethanous plays it these days. Considering the cost of the game that says quite a bit.
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I will say that I do miss the commander aspect, but at the same time I don't know that most of the maps really fit the same model as they did in BF2. A lot more of the maps are closer together or even city maps. And things like dropping supplies and vehicles would be harder to do in these maps and the kits are so different that I don't know that it is necessary. So really it comes down to having someone tell you what to do and where to go and it was rare to find a commander that actually did that even in BF2.
So what did they do? They replaced it with better squad play. As you rank up, you gain abilities that massively boost your squad members. And the whole platoon concept and being able to directly join the game with your friends is pretty freakin cool. I think they also realized that most people that are playing with others are doing it over Mumble or some other avenue and the additional VOIP traffic over the game itself was maybe a performance hit.
The interface has improved with recent updates and overall I think it's better than BF2 by a long shot. I think the gameplay is vastly different from BF2 and there are actually more game modes to choose from. My only issue lately is that it seems like every server is stacked with almost exclusively high ranked players which means the competition is pretty fierce. There are less noobs to fuck with so the chance of dying more often goes up considerably. I still think it's a better game than BF2.