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Title: Host recommendation
Post by: Mike on December 16, 2008, 11:39:08 PM
Anyone know of a host that could fill these need?
- SVN repository with ability to add hook scripts
- Add Apache module
- Cron support executing custom scripts
- Apache conf access for our stuff
- MySQL database
- Large number of subdomains

Now I think that is a little much for a standard shared host so I was thinking dedicated.  However, we don't need a full machine to begin with.  So I was thinking a VPS but I don't know of any good VPS hosts.  In addition, a short term (3-6 month increments) payment would be most ideal.

So any suggestions on a host?
Title: Re: Host recommendation
Post by: webwhy on December 16, 2008, 11:49:03 PM
assuming linux...

http://slicehost.com
Title: Re: Host recommendation
Post by: Steve on December 16, 2008, 11:52:53 PM
Vortech or 1and1. Both can accomodate and I have had greeeat experience with both
Title: Re: Host recommendation
Post by: Mike on December 17, 2008, 12:30:32 AM
assuming linux...
Really, is there any other option? :P

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http://slicehost.com
Quick look and I like what they are offering.
Title: Re: Host recommendation
Post by: webwhy on December 17, 2008, 01:00:41 AM
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Really, is there any other option? :P
you never know...some people really want their bsd's ;)
Title: Re: Host recommendation
Post by: micah on December 17, 2008, 07:05:08 AM
I've been using www.jumpline.com for the last 8 years.

I used to always recommend them wholeheartedly (and provide a link with my affiliate data to make a commission) but I find my sites running a bit slow lately and their customer support taking up to 24 to 48 to reply; even to major problems.  Not to mention their prices have gone up and they've all but droppped their affliate program.

I still use them and they are still a good value...  so check them out to in your comparison.  then let me know who you end up going with; I might switch :-)
Title: Re: Host recommendation
Post by: Steve on December 17, 2008, 10:14:29 AM
I always get a server using centos. It really seems to be the best distro for webservers. My Americas Army server ran on centos as well.

There's almost no reason for any server other then linux. Unless your using something gay like asp and in that case you should suffer with a windows server.
Title: Re: Host recommendation
Post by: Mike on December 17, 2008, 12:18:08 PM
I've been using www.jumpline.com for the last 8 years.

My major beef is that unless you get the year plan there is a setup fee.
Title: Re: Host recommendation
Post by: Steve on December 17, 2008, 12:36:41 PM
Iirc vortech hits you with a setup fee as well. 1and1 either doesn't or waived it for me I can't remember. And support for 1and1 is great. Anytime of day you can get an american. In my case I have a managed dedicated server so I have a direct number and always deal with the same group of guys. Always helpful and very capable
Title: Re: Host recommendation
Post by: ober on December 17, 2008, 12:52:05 PM
This is my host.  Best CS I've ever found.  The prices aren't the best you'll find but I think the specs make it worth it.
Title: Re: Host recommendation
Post by: Mike on December 17, 2008, 01:14:19 PM
Who is your host ober?
Title: Re: Host recommendation
Post by: ober on December 17, 2008, 01:43:08 PM
oops... http://www.ace-host.net/virtualservers.html
Title: Re: Host recommendation
Post by: micah on January 23, 2009, 10:41:32 AM
I've been using www.jumpline.com for the last 8 years.

I used to always recommend them wholeheartedly (and provide a link with my affiliate data to make a commission) but I find my sites running a bit slow lately and their customer support taking up to 24 to 48 to reply; even to major problems.  Not to mention their prices have gone up and they've all but dropped their affiliate program.

I still use them and they are still a good value...  so check them out to in your comparison.  then let me know who you end up going with; I might switch :-)

So my annual renewal is up for my main website that I don't really use any more (other then e-mail). I Have a few other sites hosted there for former clients who have a golden handshake of free hosting with me but they are small...

So instead of paying like $240 for another year of VDS hosting, I'm just going to migrate everything over to godaddy's shared servers for $6.99 a month.
 
what could possiblie go wrong?  More space and bandwidth (which I don't need) and its about 1/3 the price. I Just loose my pseudo-root control and ability to install anything I want.
Title: Re: Host recommendation
Post by: Steve on January 23, 2009, 10:59:36 AM
Do NOT use godaddy hosting. Go to 1and1 and pay less.
Title: Re: Host recommendation
Post by: hans on January 23, 2009, 11:05:49 AM
Would Amazon EC2 be too much per month/overkill?
Title: Re: Host recommendation
Post by: hans on January 23, 2009, 11:12:17 AM
Perhaps GoGrid? (along the cloud hosting theme)
Title: Re: Host recommendation
Post by: Mike on January 23, 2009, 11:32:53 AM
One of the people involved had previous contact with NetworkRedux who gave us a free VM
Title: Re: Host recommendation
Post by: Jake on January 24, 2009, 01:00:17 PM
Vortech or 1and1. Both can accomodate and I have had greeeat experience with both

ive registered over 50 domains with godaddy.com and i love them. as for 1and1, i was one of those who was very unhappy with the hosting.

:rolleyes:

Title: Re: Host recommendation
Post by: micah on January 24, 2009, 01:15:24 PM
LOL,

I'm mostly set up now with goDaddy and it was fairly seamless, My site didn't even have any down time.  I still need to get those few client sites moved over, but that'll just be something simple in my free time.  THe trick with those is though that 2 of them control their own domain names and we'll need to switch the dns address (and I'm guess they have no clue how to do that)

I think I'll give it a shot for a few months and see what happens. If it sucks, maybe I'll try something better -- but for now I just wanted something easy, quick and cheaper then renewing at jumpline for $240.
Title: Re: Host recommendation
Post by: Steve on January 24, 2009, 06:03:47 PM
Notice the dates knuck, there's a 2 year difference. I had 1and1 when they first started up, and I wasn't impressed. Then last year after axon kept suggesting them I went back and was very happy, have been ever since.
Title: Re: Host recommendation
Post by: Steve on January 24, 2009, 06:06:45 PM
Btw micah if u plan to use databases at all (even for testing) get off godaddy and get a refund. I'm telling you that you should really go somewhere else. There will be problems, I will bet money on it.
Title: Re: Host recommendation
Post by: ober on January 24, 2009, 07:34:44 PM
Godaddy sucks balls, I will give you that
Title: Re: Host recommendation
Post by: Steve on January 24, 2009, 08:02:26 PM
I won't even take on clients that have godaddy unless they agree to switch to another host. Waste of my time.
Title: Re: Host recommendation
Post by: ober on January 24, 2009, 09:41:17 PM
ditto.
Title: Re: Host recommendation
Post by: KnuckleBuckett on January 24, 2009, 10:22:52 PM
Why?  I have asked Ober if I should switch, but his advice thus far has been not to.  And considering that I haven't had any problems with GD and have had great luck with their technical service I haven't pushed the issue.
Title: Re: Host recommendation
Post by: micah on January 24, 2009, 11:08:35 PM
already set up and running a database... no problems yet.  What kind of issues should I begin to expect?
Title: Re: Host recommendation
Post by: Steve on January 24, 2009, 11:19:39 PM
Ugh where to start. Godaddy doesn't believe in standards or acceptable policy. They believe in the everything is bad and should be disabled, and nothing should work as expected. Scripts or files will run incorrectly or not at all, and hours of debugging and stress comes down to an issue with the host that should never be an issue. At this time you contact godaddy and they tell you to fuck off and give you some bs reason why they can't change their screwed up settings.
Title: Re: Host recommendation
Post by: Steve on February 04, 2009, 11:42:46 PM
I retrack my suggestion for 1and1 after today. Long story short they overcharged me back in november. They offered me a full credit, and dint issue it, account got suspended around thanksgiving. So i call up soon as they come back from the holiday, and i call. They apologize, turn the server back on, and offer the credit plus three months free (DEC-FEB) to apologize.

So i havent been on my domains or used the account, i just now got a computer back. When i couldnt access ftp, i tried my admin panel, and it said invalid. So i emailed customer service. Turns out they never issued any of the credits, ever. They shut the server back off, released it (deleting my files, i have no backups as i had no computer), and set all my domains to expire.

Needless to say many emails and phone calls have done no good. They said im fucked on the files and i can transfer my domains if i pay the 9/ea at my register (12 domains....ugh) AND they wont give me the access i need to get the transfer auth codes!!!

WTF am i going to do? God DAMMIT. They want $70 for the old account and the setup costs for a new one. im broke as fuck and i dont have any online methods of payment. Fucking annoying man i tell you.
Title: Re: Host recommendation
Post by: Steve on February 04, 2009, 11:45:46 PM
not to mention the HOURS of time i had into the sites on there. ltr450hq.net alone had over 20 hours of design into the smf theme as we went through so many. Plus everything else we did, the 2500 active members....ugh
Title: Re: Host recommendation
Post by: hans on February 05, 2009, 12:00:15 AM
I do my domain names with 1and1 and it's been fine so far (don't host anything with them, just DNS). My hosting is now done with HostGator and so far I haven't had any problems. It's good enough for my personal website. At the company we lease a half rack locally but we're looking into the Amazon hosting.
Title: Re: Host recommendation
Post by: Steve on February 05, 2009, 12:07:05 AM
I did reseller through hostgator, wasnt impressed with the control panel (hsphere i think) but the server was nice.

My domains are done through godaddy and dynadot, but i had 12 thru 1and1 because they were free
Title: Re: Host recommendation
Post by: Jake on February 05, 2009, 09:03:29 AM
...RoD there is a point where you should realize that it is not the universe conspiring against you, and that it is most likely that you are the fuck up and are doing something to bring this upon your self. Get your self together, stop whining like a little bitch, get of your lazy ass, and do something with your life. Or better yet, just sue 1and1.....:rolleyes:
Title: Re: Host recommendation
Post by: Steve on February 05, 2009, 10:07:58 AM
...RoD there is a point where you should realize that it is not the universe conspiring against you, and that it is most likely that you are the fuck up and are doing something to bring this upon your self. Get your self together, stop whining like a little bitch, get of your lazy ass, and do something with your life. Or better yet, just sue 1and1.....:rolleyes:

Right, so its my fault that i paid my bill and realized they overcharged me? It's my fault that they offered me something and didnt deliver...twice? And its my fault for expecting a company to stand behind the agreements it makes with it's customers? Give me a fucking break.
Title: Re: Host recommendation
Post by: hans on February 05, 2009, 11:24:52 AM
Yup.
Title: Re: Host recommendation
Post by: hans on February 05, 2009, 11:26:34 AM
And fix your ubuntu/vista image. It bothers me that the circles aren't lined up on the top. :D
Title: Re: Host recommendation
Post by: Rob on February 05, 2009, 12:04:31 PM
<:mad:> (http://www.entropysink.com/forums/index.php?topic=8184.0) <------ Linky
Title: Re: Host recommendation
Post by: Steve on February 05, 2009, 01:02:01 PM
Yup.

um, no.
Title: Re: Host recommendation
Post by: charlie on February 05, 2009, 01:05:24 PM
No, not directly. But that doesn't mean that there's nothing you can do to reduce the chances of these kinds of things happening. axon is basically right.
Title: Re: Host recommendation
Post by: Steve on February 05, 2009, 01:10:05 PM
What could i have done given my situation? The bill was wrong, so i called. They offered a credit, all i wanted originally was the bill fixed so i could pay it. I said awsome and hung up. I noticed the server down, i called, they apologized and made a new offer, i accepted.

It wasnt like i was reguarly on the site as of late. Could i have done more to ensure it wasnt suspended? Sure absolutely. But that doesnt put me at fault, and to say they screwed up isnt some kind of conspiracy its the truth. I would have kept my service with 1and1. Hell i would pay the 70.00 if i had it just to be done with the headache. But i dont and im the victim here.
Title: Re: Host recommendation
Post by: charlie on February 05, 2009, 01:20:18 PM
It's not about the specific situation, that's why I said it's not directly your fault. These kinds of things happen to anybody and everybody (my bank just fucked me out of over $100 last month and my flexible spending account fucked me out of over $1000 last year). But you can do things to reduce the number of times this shit happens and more importantly, how it affects you.

Going to the navy or starting and finishing school might seem unrelated, but those are the kinds of things that will help you overcome these kinds of situations.
Title: Re: Host recommendation
Post by: Steve on February 05, 2009, 03:15:49 PM
well yea if we are being broad spectrum alot of it is my fault, but a large portion is shitty luck as well. Like last night i wasnt home, someone broke in and stole 8 laptops and 4 desktops in for repair. I'm going to end up eating ALL of that in the long run. I spent my entire morning filling out reports and statements and fielding a million phone calls from seriously pissed off people.

Wasnt my fault. I had the house locked up and everything was in the bedroom closet covered up. they stole the tv, too. They didnt get mine only because i had it with me. I almost left it home, but heather wanted me to bring it so i grabbed it last second. That was another thing the sheriff officer was a c*nt and kept bringing up how convienent that was.

Fucking A. Yea not everything is the world out to get me or bad luck, but can anyone here honestly say that i dont have the worst luck? I somehow always find a way to make things work, but im so tired of it. I'm fucking depressed, i have seriously had enough and im one stumble short of a meltdown i may not come back from.

Fuck now i feel even worse.
Title: Re: Host recommendation
Post by: hans on February 05, 2009, 03:28:53 PM
Bad things happen in threes. Isn't that the saying?
Title: Re: Host recommendation
Post by: webwhy on February 05, 2009, 03:35:22 PM
here's my theory...granted...just a theory...

you're not that young anymore...you have no job, no education, no prospects...you're delusional...you create fantasies to explain the failures in your life...contrived stories about mixups over invoices, payments and promised credits... in these fantasies blame is passed onto a third party...this is your coping mechanism...

sorry if that's harsh, but you need to own your situation...your choices are your own...

I'm probably completely wrong, but it's hard to argue with axon and charlie...you're obviously doing something incorrectly...exactly what that may be is difficult to determine via the web...
Title: Re: Host recommendation
Post by: charlie on February 05, 2009, 03:45:28 PM
well yea if we are being broad spectrum alot of it is my fault, but a large portion is shitty luck as well. Like last night i wasnt home, someone broke in and stole 8 laptops and 4 desktops in for repair. I'm going to end up eating ALL of that in the long run. I spent my entire morning filling out reports and statements and fielding a million phone calls from seriously pissed off people.

Wasnt my fault. I had the house locked up and everything was in the bedroom closet covered up. they stole the tv, too. They didnt get mine only because i had it with me. I almost left it home, but heather wanted me to bring it so i grabbed it last second. That was another thing the sheriff officer was a c*nt and kept bringing up how convienent that was.

Fucking A. Yea not everything is the world out to get me or bad luck, but can anyone here honestly say that i dont have the worst luck? I somehow always find a way to make things work, but im so tired of it. I'm fucking depressed, i have seriously had enough and im one stumble short of a meltdown i may not come back from.

Fuck now i feel even worse.

I can honestly say you don't have the worst luck.

I don't think anybody is saying these things are your fault or that you ask for them to happen. But some of us do think that there is a correlation between how you live your life and the frequency of these things happening.

That doesn't mean your life is shit. Hell, you're like 24 or something and you're a pretty smart guy. You've got a great life ahead of you. But it will be better (in my opinion) if you quit lamenting your luck and just face the fact that life can be a bitch sometimes and the only thing you can do is make the most of it. Even if you can't avoid all the crap you can make things better just by making a few changes. But it's up to you to do that and stick to it. Otherwise, it will take extremely good luck to get yourself out of this cycle.
Title: Re: Host recommendation
Post by: Jake on February 05, 2009, 04:26:24 PM
yes, yes and yes.

I completely agree with webwhy.

I was actually really happy when you planned on going to the Navy. I really believe that any imposed discipline would be great for a person like you; I hoped you would commit to it, but I had a feeling you wouldn't and that it was all an attention grabbing sham.

Your "story", and I mean your WHOLE story, as you presented it to us here over the years we've been doing this forum thing, is full of holes. As far as I'm concerned, you're making up 75% of the things you're telling us about....I guess I went through a similar phase when my life was quickly spiraling out of control. I was ashamed about what was happening and I knew I was in control over 99% of it, and just did not feel like doing anything about it - therefore making up outrageous stories in lieu of the truth helped me cope...but that lasted for about 4 months or so - until I decided to get my act together. Your story seems to be lasting for a better part of the last four years or so.

Just STOP it.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BYLMTvxOaeE 
Title: Re: Host recommendation
Post by: Steve on February 05, 2009, 05:27:41 PM
Fuck this, i give you guys all the information, even when im completely ashamed of it. As for the navy they put a full hault on processing anyone requiring a waiver because everyone and their brother is trying to join. i fought for that tooth and nail but i cant force the goverment to do anything.

i dont need the armchair psychology. Ever stop to think my history is full of holes because its so insane and spurratic?? I vanish one day with one problem and emerge god knows when with a whole new set and never even conclude the previous.

I have done so much shit in this life i cant stand, there are things i hate myself for, and there are decisions i have made that still cause the rippled i feel today. I'm not denying or sugarcoating anything. If your going to analyze me through a monitor just shut the fuck up i need friends not fucking therapists.

I'm falling apart at the seams, and i have nothing to hold me together. I have no more miracles left in me, no more tricks, nothing. Come monday im evicted with nowhere to go and no money. I needed the money i had sitting in my living room, and someone stole it.

I'm just so done
Title: Re: Host recommendation
Post by: charlie on February 05, 2009, 06:25:49 PM
i dont need the armchair psychology.
...
If your going to analyze me through a monitor just shut the fuck up i need friends not fucking therapists.

Sorry RoD, but friends call it like they see it. If you don't see that people are trying to help you not hurt you then you need to re-read the thread when you've cooled down a bit.

I'm falling apart at the seams, and i have nothing to hold me together. I have no more miracles left in me, no more tricks, nothing. Come monday im evicted with nowhere to go and no money. I needed the money i had sitting in my living room, and someone stole it.

I'm just so done

Your situation sucks. But its somewhere you've been before, right? You've got a blackberry you can sell to make some money, right? You can stay with your girlfriend for a few days and do some jobs from craigslist to build up a little more cash, right? You've got your health? Maybe not all of that is right, but the point is that you have options.

From my position in front of this monitor, your life isn't as bad as it seems to you. Your net worth is greater than mine by 6 figures. You have more girlfriends than Mike. You have more hair than Rob and less than ober. Other people on this forum have gone through their own shit lately as well, let alone other people in the world. Sorry, but you don't have the worst luck.

So go ahead and be pissed off at the shit that happens to you. But when you're done doing that, make the decision to do something about it. You're the only one who can.
Title: Re: Host recommendation
Post by: Steve on February 05, 2009, 06:29:36 PM
Sorry im just feeling the weight today. I need a beer and an outlet
Title: Re: Host recommendation
Post by: Rob on February 05, 2009, 06:38:27 PM
i dont need the armchair psychology.
...
If your going to analyze me through a monitor just shut the fuck up i need friends not fucking therapists.

Sorry RoD, but friends call it like they see it. If you don't see that people are trying to help you not hurt you then you need to re-read the thread when you've cooled down a bit.

I'm falling apart at the seams, and i have nothing to hold me together. I have no more miracles left in me, no more tricks, nothing. Come monday im evicted with nowhere to go and no money. I needed the money i had sitting in my living room, and someone stole it.

I'm just so done

Your situation sucks. But its somewhere you've been before, right? You've got a blackberry you can sell to make some money, right? You can stay with your girlfriend for a few days and do some jobs from craigslist to build up a little more cash, right? You've got your health? Maybe not all of that is right, but the point is that you have options.

From my position in front of this monitor, your life isn't as bad as it seems to you. Your net worth is greater than mine by 6 figures. You have more girlfriends than Mike. You have more hair than Rob and less than ober. Other people on this forum have gone through their own shit lately as well, let alone other people in the world. Sorry, but you don't have the worst luck.

So go ahead and be pissed off at the shit that happens to you. But when you're done doing that, make the decision to do something about it. You're the only one who can.

Godammit, we seem to be agreeing far too much these days. WTH am I supposed to do for a good argument now.

RoD, there's a lot of sense talked in this thread. You can bitch and moan as much as you want, but there's only one person who can solve your problems.
Title: Re: Host recommendation
Post by: Steve on February 05, 2009, 06:41:33 PM
I'm not saying someone else needs to do anything, its all on me. And he is right i have been here before, but im not seeing the way out this time. How many times can i bounce back? At some point isnt it just enough? At some point dont i fall and just say fuck it?
Title: Re: Host recommendation
Post by: charlie on February 05, 2009, 06:59:04 PM
At some point you bounce back one more time and then do something to change the way your life works. When you're ready to take that responsibility there are plenty of good ideas, some of which have been mentioned here, that your friends can give you. It really has to start with you making the decision to commit to not feeling sorry for yourself and trying a new tactic. If that's what you mean by "fuck it" then great.

Step 1 is to find a place to live and get just a little bit of cash. Not much we can do there. After that we can talk.
Title: Re: Host recommendation
Post by: Steve on February 05, 2009, 07:07:17 PM
I have a reach out on that, we'll see. me and heather arent dating and that wouldnt work, and i wouldnt put her in the position to say no. Be different if she didnt live at home.