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Technical & Scientific => Software => Topic started by: ober on December 03, 2010, 09:31:38 AM
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So... I've been considering an online backup tool for a while now and I think after the first of the year I'm going to go ahead and do it. So which one is best? Carbonite? Mozy? They have the same yearly price. If Dropbox had a cheaper yearly plan I'd probably just do that. Is there another option I'm not aware of?
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Shit, I think I found a winner: http://www.sosonlinebackup.com/online-pc-backup/system-backup-pricing.htm
I didn't realize Mozy and Carbonite limit you to one computer, which would mean I'd be having to come up with a routine to copy shit to my computer and then sync to the account from there. No thanks. For another $20/year roughly, I can just tie all my computers together.
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I found this review by the way: http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2288745,00.asp
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Ack, stupid auto play voice!
I'd also look at Amazon's S3 storage. Kinda depends on what you are using it for.
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We now use egnyte at work and it works pretty well. I think it's more aimed at companies but I've thought about using it personally.
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Amazon S3 isn't really what I'm looking for. I want the full automated backup package that I don't really have to manage.
Egnyte looks to be more aimed at companies and is way more expensive than the other options.
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Thanks for the thread. I was actually looking at Dropbox as a solution to share large video files within our media team and SOS looks like a much cheaper alternative. Do you know if you can limit it to a single folder?
edit: found their manual. yes i can.
edit2: except, I just realized SOS doesn't seem to be mac compatible. back to dropbox...
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Yeah, that was the only downside I saw but I don't use any Mac's so I think that's probably the route I'll go.
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I use mozy...love it. Prior reviews somewhere...I've got like 90gig uploaded - so better for me...
Also check out Belvadere for teh automated routine - one of the lifehacker staff made it:
http://lifehacker.com/5472317/belvedere-05-update-automates-recycle-bin-management-file-compression-and-more
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But you're only managing one PC with it, right? Anyone using any of these services with more than one? I'd go with Mozy or Carbonite if it wasn't for that.
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Yup - actually I pay for it on 2, but I'm going to drop 1...
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Ober you happy with this guy? Mozy just announced price hikes and the end of their unlimited plan...I'll be dropping it when my subcriptions are done....
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none of the online backups are unlimited anyway, they are "unlimited" lol.
I use Ubuntu One.
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I haven't actually done it yet. I was waiting for my refund. I think I'll still go with SOS but it looks like their prices jumped too. But I just went to their site and I was sitting on the order form and a little support chat window popped up with a 20% off link.
https://ecommerce.sosonlinebackup.com/cart/pages/soscart_20pc/soscart.htm?src=upsellit
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Also i'm not limited to one computer. I pay something like $30 a year for 40GB
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Mozy used to be truly unlimited. I'm still unlimited until June...I'll probably sit to see if carbonite's prices jump too....
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Mozy used to be truly unlimited. I'm still unlimited until June...I'll probably sit to see if carbonite's prices jump too....
Yea for like a month, if that. Then they imposed the same restrictions as Carbonite.
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Ummm - I'm at 100+ GB on 1 comp and 72 on the other. Have had it for at least 5 years. No longer unlimited now...but has been....
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When i had it i got an email from them telling me it wasn't truely unlimited and that i needed to delete files to get under 100GB of storage.
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Carbonite?
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Carbonite?
http://www.carbonite.com/
(i assume thats what you were asking? I used Mozy)
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I meant what did you use. I use Carbonite.
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I meant what did you use. I use Carbonite.
Mozy, i use Ubuntu One
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My mozy is nearing expiration...plus I got a new apartment, so I've got to go to slower internet so I want to get my new backups done now...Any success with any of these new services I'm about to switch to carbonite, but I thought I'd ask about others first...
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I haven't actually made the jump. I'm building up space with Wuala (similar to dropbox) and I might give that a whirl.
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Ubuntu One is top notch
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I want something a bit more backup oriented than that - I use dropbox, mobileme, google, and probably soon iCloud for syncing type stuff....
I'm skipping on Carbonite. After reading some it sounds like they have some throttling issues on upload - and given that I want to backup 100gigs in the next 2-3 weeks while I still have this available to me:
(http://www.speedtest.net/result/1325296545.png) (http://www.speedtest.net)
Seems like BackBlaze is pretty similar to mozy and carbonite and I can have complete encryption.....Not sure about their apps, but I don't use my mozy app very often so I'll live....
http://www.backblaze.com/internet-backup.html
Learned about it: http://lifehacker.com/5749845/the-best-alternatives-to-mozy-for-big-or-unlimited-backups
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If it's on LH it's probably a safe experiment
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Ok I'm done with carbonite. They keep dropping the ball on my massive music collection. Time to re-read this thread.
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How do they drop the ball?
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They ignore marked folders constantly.
Just signed up with ZipCloud. Good reviews, 250GB for $5/mo and allows multiple devices. Worth a try. I liked the look of SOS but 50GB isn't enough to even handle my documents and pictures.
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So far zip cloud is a hit. The app runs great, the interface online is nice and the uploads are pretty fast.
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Keep us up to date. I am done with Carbonite for the same reason.
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Will do. Their trial is limited to a few mb so you can check out the software and the interface. I spent the $7.99 to sign up on a monthly plan (cheaper paid ahead) and right now about 20% of my stuff is up so far.
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I actually jumped on the bigger plans Dropbox went to. 99/year for 100GB which is more than enough for what I need right now. I haven't fully start pushing our backups there yet but that needs to start to happen.
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Yea man don't spend a $100/yr and not use it...
Followup on Zipcloud:
I love it. I have backed up around 75GB of data just letting it run in the background since signing up. The interface is great and I have it on every laptop we have as well as two android phones. They gave me an extra GB of data for every device I added just for adding it.
If anyone decides to sign up let me know first, maybe there is a referral program.
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Decent privacy policy?
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You know this process is aggravating. I just checked Ashleys laptop to make sure it all loaded, and it says she is on a 1GB trial associated with my account. They expect a second monthly fee for her.
See this is annoying. I'm canceling with Zipcloud and going back to square one. SOS would be great, but 50GB doesn't cut it.
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Also they require a year, i want monthly.
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Tired of dicking around. I'm giving Dropbox the $10 a month for 102GB.
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Yeah, I kinda followed the same logic path as you... I just got there quicker ;)
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It is annoying that i need a program to link folders to the drop box folder instead of dropbox letting me tell it which folders to sync.
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Yeah, I kinda followed the same logic path as you... I just got there quicker ;)
It's them long legs.
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Can I sync multiple computers to dropbox, without syncing them to another? For example I want all of the computers and both phones to sync what I tell them to the dropbox cloud, but I don't want it to send the files to all the computers. I don't need her files, she don't need mine, etc.
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You can decide to selectively sync on each computer? So on her computer, just click on the folders that are relevant to her, and on yours click on the folders that are yours.
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I didn't know if Dropbox automatically sends all files in the account to all of the linked devices on the account
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It does by default, but you can change it....
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Agreed with Kermi. And the phone version doesn't actually download anything. You're just tapping in from the web and you can open stuff (and potentially add from the phone too but I never tried).
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Cool ty
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so how do you change it? I didn't find anything about it, and as soon as i installed it to ashleys computer it began dumping my files onto it.
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Go to preferences, advanced, selective sync
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Well shit, that means on her computer i have like 3,000 folders to manually uncheck.
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Yeah, you probably should have done the selective sync preference change before it started dumping files from all 3000 folders.
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Yeah, you probably should have done the selective sync preference change before it started dumping files from all 3000 folders.
I installed the software on her computer and logged in when it asked me and instantly it was syncing them. I will probably completely remove it from her computer and do it over, guess i missed something.
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Just uncheck them. I think it removes the files for you.
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My laptop syncs thousands of folders to drop box. So on her laptop i would need to uncheck thousands of folders.
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Dropbox is not going to cut it. I have been trying SugarSync but apparently if you format a computer it will not backup your files onto the new install unless the file structure exists. Fail. The search continues, next up is iDrive. I demand excellence and I WILL find it. The solution constantly comes back to SOS but their prices are high.
The kill board:
Mozy
Carbonite
Zip Cloud (and it's spin offs, all have same basic logo and website)
Dropbox
Sugarsync
Amazon
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Why won't DB work? You don't want to have to manage all the folders??
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Not the way it does it. I want each computer to simply backup what I tell it to the cloud, and that is it. Enough of this sync crap, messy application setup, etc. If I want to sync files I will, Dropbox and a few others are using a feature design I do not want. I want a backup system that just works, does it well, does it simple, and does it fast.
Sugarsync is actually the biggest let down because transfers were FAST. I backed up 57GB in 3 hours.
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Also the fact that I needed an extra program to avoid putting my folders into the dropbox folder location was just plain obnoxious.
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Seems to me like you're just picky. ;)
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I like to think I demand excellence.
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FYI, free year for Carbonite users if you are interested. Crashplan is much more customizable than Carbonite.
http://lifehacker.com/5942227/grab-a-free-year-of-unlimited-backup-from-crashplan?tag=crashplan
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oh that is AWESOME!!!
Note after you enter email you have to hit enter to activate. at least on chrome.
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If this works out as well as the software would indicate I'm going to be a very happy man. I'm up and running on my 1 year, just had to enter the key from my email.
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FYI, free year for Carbonite users if you are interested. Crashplan is much more customizable than Carbonite.
http://lifehacker.com/5942227/grab-a-free-year-of-unlimited-backup-from-crashplan?tag=crashplan
Given my annoying track record of being let down by these services I'm trying not to get my hopes up BUT thus far CrashPlan is pretty damn good.
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Crashplan is pretty damn awesome. Only downfall is you can't (apparently) restore individual files or folders because you can't navigate them. You can only restore them all at once, for example after a format, which is fine. You can get individual files via the Android app.
One thing does concern me though. I read a thread on CP support website where a girl complained that she formatted her computer, and then when she went to restore from CP she learned that the restore system ignores anything in the backup that does not exist on the computer in regards to structure.
So for example I have my music as
My Music
/artist
/artist
/artist
and so on. According to her complaint she would need to go into her new My Music folder on the clean install and create a new folder for every single artist match the names found on the cloud. If that is the case then holy shit, that's a problem. Crashplan did not appear to refute it.
What an oversight that would be.
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I'd say. Fail.
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I'd say. Fail.
If its true total fail. Ik waiting on an official answer.
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Crashplan is pretty damn awesome. Only downfall is you can't (apparently) restore individual files or folders because you can't navigate them. You can only restore them all at once, for example after a format, which is fine. You can get individual files via the Android app.
One thing does concern me though. I read a thread on CP support website where a girl complained that she formatted her computer, and then when she went to restore from CP she learned that the restore system ignores anything in the backup that does not exist on the computer in regards to structure.
So for example I have my music as
My Music
/artist
/artist
/artist
and so on. According to her complaint she would need to go into her new My Music folder on the clean install and create a new folder for every single artist match the names found on the cloud. If that is the case then holy shit, that's a problem. Crashplan did not appear to refute it.
What an oversight that would be.
This information is not correct. I am restoring right now and it takes the folders you select from the cloud and creates them on the desktop, and then you can move them anywhere you like. Filestructure is in tact.
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in deed :thumbsup:
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Crash plan, 10/10
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OK so after using Crashplan on three computers and actually putting it to the test it gets my vote hands down, no question. The free year is a major plus, the software is fast and stable, and it just plain works. There is a learning curve to understanding how it all needs to be set up but once you get it down it is simple.