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In each head-to-head matchup below, vote for your preferred candidate(s) for U.S. President (you should vote 3 times)

---- Dem Primary Sanders vs. Biden ---------
0 (0%)
Bernie Sanders
3 (11.1%)
Joe Biden
5 (18.5%)
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0 (0%)
---- General Election Trump vs. Sanders -----
0 (0%)
Donald Trump
3 (11.1%)
Bernie Sanders
6 (22.2%)
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0 (0%)
---- General Election Trump vs. Biden --------
0 (0%)
Donald Trump
3 (11.1%)
Joe Biden
6 (22.2%)
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1 (3.7%)

Total Members Voted: 10

Voting closes: November 03, 2020, 02:48:43 PM

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Re: Election 2020
« Reply #120 on: March 03, 2020, 09:21:38 AM »
I'm going to be sad when Biden gets the nomination.  He is the pinnacle of out of touch old white guy.

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Re: Election 2020
« Reply #121 on: March 03, 2020, 09:30:20 AM »
What the fuck is wrong with you?  Bloomberg?  Really?

And you are seriously trying to tell us that you would vote for the person who has been actively working against the interests of the nation to his own fulfillment and who has mas made a mockery of our nation on the international stage because the main opponent wants people to not die because of healthcare costs?  That is your position?

Mike, I will not argue with you, because there is no point - your stance shows me you're not open to any discussion anyway. So forgive me for ignoring your posts lately.
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Re: Election 2020
« Reply #122 on: March 03, 2020, 09:34:44 AM »
Why would Bloomberg sway you?

several reasons: he is hugely successful and pretty much self made; from what I know he did a great job running one of the biggest cities in the world during several moments of crisis, I like his stance on the environment. I also think he can sway a lot of middle of the way reps. What I don't like about him is his gun stance.
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Re: Election 2020
« Reply #123 on: March 03, 2020, 09:51:13 AM »
What the fuck is wrong with you?  Bloomberg?  Really?

And you are seriously trying to tell us that you would vote for the person who has been actively working against the interests of the nation to his own fulfillment and who has mas made a mockery of our nation on the international stage because the main opponent wants people to not die because of healthcare costs?  That is your position?

Mike, I will not argue with you, because there is no point - your stance shows me you're not open to any discussion anyway. So forgive me for ignoring your posts lately.
Well, perhaps if you didn't take such closed minded and offensive positions I might be more open.  I'm not going to compromise my principals in order to appease hate, bigotry, or willful ignorance.



And if you think that was offensive then just look at Trump's behavior and fucking realize his is even worse.
Open your fucking eyes to what Trump has done and what the Republican party has allowed him to continue doing.  For fuck's sake, no one is asking you to vote blue but you can at least call him out on his shit and not support him.

Why would Bloomberg sway you?

several reasons: he is hugely successful and pretty much self made; from what I know he did a great job running one of the biggest cities in the world during several moments of crisis, I like his stance on the environment. I also think he can sway a lot of middle of the way reps. What I don't like about him is his gun stance.
You forgot to mention that he is actually a Republican pretending to be a Democrat.

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Re: Election 2020
« Reply #124 on: March 03, 2020, 06:03:24 PM »
Yeah... I know we've had this conversation already but I really don't get the Trump thing. I mean I get some people hate the idea of socialism and are anti-Bernie all the way (even though he will not implement anything close to socialism if he is president). But being "ok" with 4 more years of Trump even if he goes up against a normal candidate like Biden just does not compute.

I'm always happy to discuss but I'm not sure there is a cogent argument for Trump that fits within the reality that I'm aware of.
 

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Re: Election 2020
« Reply #125 on: March 03, 2020, 07:24:55 PM »
I mean I get some people hate the idea of socialism and are anti-Bernie all the way (even though he will not implement anything close to socialism if he is president).
One of my biggest turn-offs with Bernie this cycle is his promising the moon and back.  I don't disagree with most of them but I also think that a lot of them are unattainable at this time.  Kinda wish he would focus on a few critical issues.

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Re: Election 2020
« Reply #126 on: March 03, 2020, 11:18:44 PM »
i'm glad that dems came somewhat to their senses and voted for biden today. as much as some of you don't like him, with the thrashing that Bloomberg got, Biden is the only chance. A very slim chance, but the only one. If Sanders was the candidate you would have many people like me voting for Trump even though they wouldn't want to. Bernie just needs to retire in one of his three houses and stop this nonsense. Dems need to take the next 4.5 years to re-examine their platform so that they can field a candidate that people can stand behind. Mayor Pete, Liz Warren and the rest are not it! So to all the registered dems, you can thank yourselves for Trump's second term. I don't see him losing unless something huge happens in the geo-political spectrum.
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Re: Election 2020
« Reply #127 on: March 03, 2020, 11:21:36 PM »
I mean I get some people hate the idea of socialism and are anti-Bernie all the way (even though he will not implement anything close to socialism if he is president).
One of my biggest turn-offs with Bernie this cycle is his promising the moon and back.  I don't disagree with most of them but I also think that a lot of them are unattainable at this time.  Kinda wish he would focus on a few critical issues.

I'm no political scientist so I can't really say what strategies work better for winning elections than others, but I'm looking for somebody to make clear:

1) Their vision of ideal solutions
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2) The realistic solutions they think they can either implement as President or pass through Congress


I'm guessing that wouldn't be a great way to win the most votes as it wouldn't be a clear message but that's what I'd prefer.

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Re: Election 2020
« Reply #128 on: March 03, 2020, 11:21:50 PM »
i'm glad that dems came somewhat to their senses and voted for biden today. as much as some of you don't like him, with the thrashing that Bloomberg got, Biden is the only chance. A very slim chance, but the only one. If Sanders was the candidate you would have many people like me voting for Trump even though they wouldn't want to. Bernie just needs to retire in one of his three houses and stop this nonsense. Dems need to take the next 4.5 years to re-examine their platform so that they can field a candidate that people can stand behind. Mayor Pete, Liz Warren and the rest are not it! So to all the registered dems, you can thank yourselves for Trump's second term. I don't see him losing unless something huge happens in the geo-political spectrum.

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Re: Election 2020
« Reply #129 on: March 04, 2020, 06:36:39 AM »
totally agree with Charlie.
I'm going to vote for Trump either way - not that it matter living in an electoral college blue-state.

I think social media has emboldened the radical left to feel like they are mainstream.  But the majority of people are much more central in ideology (on both sides, whether they individually realize it or not).  The populous doesn't want a crazy bernie or warren.  They can't stand elitists like bloomberg. As much as trump leaves a bad taste in so many people's mouths -- things are actually going pretty well right now and, statistically speaking, that bodes pretty well for a sitting president.
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Re: Election 2020
« Reply #130 on: March 04, 2020, 08:33:02 AM »
You both fucking suck and should be ashamed of yourselves.  Do neither of you have a fucking conscience or morals?


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Re: Election 2020
« Reply #131 on: March 04, 2020, 08:41:01 AM »
You both fucking suck and should be ashamed of yourselves.  Do neither of you have a fucking conscience or morals?



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Re: Election 2020
« Reply #132 on: March 04, 2020, 11:25:02 AM »
>They can't stand elitists like bloomberg.

Wait a second, you don't consider Trump to be an elitist?


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Re: Election 2020
« Reply #133 on: March 04, 2020, 02:35:24 PM »
>They can't stand elitists like bloomberg.

Wait a second, you don't consider Trump to be an elitist?

They all are.  Every single one of them are rich, entitled, elitist.  That said, I should have said "political elitist." I believe a large part of Trump's base see him as a Washington outsider so, despite his wealth he gets a pass as someone who's standing up for the every-man against the political establishment.
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Re: Election 2020
« Reply #134 on: March 04, 2020, 03:52:50 PM »
Micah, I would have really thought you and your family might benefit from some of Bernie's (and other's) proposals. Why are you against them?

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