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Select your preferred candidate(s) for U.S. President

Donald Trump
1 (4.8%)
Some other Republican
1 (4.8%)
Third Party
1 (4.8%)
Joe Biden
1 (4.8%)
Elizabeth Warren
5 (23.8%)
Bernie Sanders
1 (4.8%)
Pete Buttigieg
2 (9.5%)
Kamala Harris
2 (9.5%)
Andrew Yang
1 (4.8%)
Some other Dem candidate (e.g. Klobuchar, Booker, Castro, etc)
3 (14.3%)
Some other Dem not yet in the race (e.g. Clinton, Bloomberg, Abrams, etc)
0 (0%)
A literal pile of rotting meat
2 (9.5%)
Jake/Pence 2020
1 (4.8%)

Total Members Voted: 9

Voting closes: November 03, 2020, 02:48:43 PM

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Re: Election 2020
« Reply #30 on: November 11, 2019, 04:45:20 PM »
I really hope it's not Biden.  He's too out of touch, flips too much, and has said some less than inspiring things over the past few months.  I do hope Warren gets it but I hope she comes a little more center if she does.

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Re: Election 2020
« Reply #31 on: November 11, 2019, 05:45:27 PM »
Biden would be terrible.  He is the embodiment of the rich old white guy.

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Re: Election 2020
« Reply #32 on: November 11, 2019, 10:51:31 PM »
the only way that Dems stand a chance is with Biden....
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Re: Election 2020
« Reply #33 on: November 12, 2019, 12:59:51 AM »
So, I still think Trump is a duche of a person but I'll probably vote for him again.  You crazy liberals can't pick a normal middle-of-the-road blue-collar democrat.  It's all global-warming fear mongering, trump bashing and socialist programs. Honestly, I'd (begrudgingly) be ok with an old school pro-union tax and spend democrat but Warren? or Sanders?  I know you have a rabid left-wing base but the country is still 10 or 20 years from embarrassing that kind of extremism.  Stick to your incrementalism that has worked for my entire life time...and you'll get there; but have some patience.   For now, you need to just put up an old fart white guy and cross your fingers.  Also, at funny as the "ok boomer" memes and similar rhetoric from the likes of Ocasio-Cortez may play well to the hip reddit crowd... but seriously, you're isolating everyone over 40. have some patience, your day will come.
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Re: Election 2020
« Reply #34 on: November 12, 2019, 09:06:17 AM »
aren't you a gen X?
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Re: Election 2020
« Reply #35 on: November 12, 2019, 09:14:33 AM »
And actually, I think what people are worried about is that no, their day will not come. They'll die first
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Re: Election 2020
« Reply #36 on: November 12, 2019, 09:35:08 AM »
And I'm not saying I agree with every proposal Sanders or Warren or AOC has.
Do I want to cry a little when I see $1225 taking out of every paycheck? Yes. Would I rather $1100 get taken out instead to fund programs that I don't necessarily agree with or cuts funding to programs I think are important? No.

I'm merely aligning myself to values I hold closer to myself. You are entitled to yours as well.
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Re: Election 2020
« Reply #37 on: November 12, 2019, 10:28:04 AM »
there is some excitement behind bloomberg entering the race. I don't know much about him yet. What do you guys think if that happened?
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Re: Election 2020
« Reply #38 on: November 12, 2019, 11:40:48 AM »
Global Warming isn't fear mongering
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Re: Election 2020
« Reply #39 on: November 12, 2019, 04:23:28 PM »
Global Warming isn't fear mongering
Thanks ethic.  I came to say that as well.

Micah/Jake, how can you vote for Trump when he runs things like a dictatorship?  He thinks he is above the law.  He is racist.  He's a bigot.  His immigration policy is literally ripping families apart.  He doesn't believe in global warming.  His foreign policy is laughable and is making us look like the biggest buffoons around the world.  He lies CONSTANTLY.

And I'm so sick of the 'socialist' bullshit.  You guys pin that word on every democratic policy yet there are many democracies around the world that run these proposed programs effectively in a democratic environment.  So many things are broken in this country and the republicans are not only not proposing fixes but also actively rallying against other proposals because.... why?  No one wants to work together anymore. 

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Re: Election 2020
« Reply #40 on: November 12, 2019, 04:35:50 PM »
Man we haven't had a good debate on here in a while.  That's what used to make this place so alive.  C'mon - let's go toe to toe!

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Re: Election 2020
« Reply #41 on: November 12, 2019, 05:08:05 PM »
I'm not sure why you're assuming that I will vote for Trump? I didn't vote for him last election, and am not planning on voting for him this time around - FYI

I'm trolling in this thread [but only a bit] to start some conversation because this forum leans heavily to the left ;)

I think I said it before. Fiscally I am quite conservative - for social issues, I don't want the government in people's life. I want a much bigger emphasis on the environment and its protection. I want to get rid of career politicians. I want a much smaller government. I want a strong military but I don't want to be the world's police force. I don't want to pay higher taxes. I don't want common core. I want to own as many guns as I can afford but I want lengthier back ground checks coupled with psychological evaluations

If you want, I can expand on any of those.

Our current political climate is too extreme. And I don't get it. I think that most people in America are closer to the middle than not. However, due to how vocal the extreme elements of both parties are, this brings in animosity and overall not very good feelings towards the other side. I think this is even more bloated out of proportion by the media.

At this time I would vote for any half way decent candidate that was a centrist - whatever party they were from.
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Re: Election 2020
« Reply #42 on: November 12, 2019, 09:58:38 PM »
For some reason I assumed you were a Trumper based on things you've said.  My bad.  Maybe you're a bigger troll than I thought.

You had me until the common core bit.  Elaborate please. 

I generally agree with the other things you said.  Also, I don't mind paying more taxes if I get more for my money.  I'd be thrilled to pay more taxes if I didn't have to spend so much on healthcare (not equivalent to what I pay for healthcare... just to clarify).

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Re: Election 2020
« Reply #43 on: November 12, 2019, 10:13:10 PM »
Common core, as we were introduced to it in grades 1-3 was a freaking joke. That way to teach math is not intuitive, weird, and stupid. I hated it and so did my kids. I'm so happy that our school is going back to teaching math the way we were. 
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Re: Election 2020
« Reply #44 on: November 12, 2019, 10:21:53 PM »
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For some reason I assumed you were a Trumper based on things you've said.  My bad.

No biggie. But I want to push a little more, because I'm not sure what in this thread made you believe it. Was it the electoral college stance? Or criticizing the Democrats and not being able to field a half way decent candidate?

Either way, I am a registered Republican. I voted for Johnson last time around. I actually voted for Obama once also. Just once though! ;) I also voted for Bush. It does not matter who I vote for because I live in a state that votes the way Chicagoland votes. I will vote for Trump if Democrats field Bernie or another extremist. Otherwise I hope there will be a good third party candidate. If there is not, I will not vote.
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